What Can We Complain About This Week?

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  1. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    Missed the hand-off? No, no, no.

    It's an option play, the quarterback makes a decision to make the hand-off or keep it himself. Smith decided to keep it himself and run. Then he feinted one of the greatest fake laterals in his entire career, froze the defender who was about, ummm, three or four inches in front of him, (well-positioned to make the tackle) and ran up the middle for a gain of six.

    Fucking loved that play.

    To everyone complaining about Lowery... why? Was it the illegitimate pass interference call in the end zone? Was it the awesome run support, including a forced fumble and an absolute stuff behind the line of scrimmage? That perfectly knocked down pass? The fact that he shut down future hall-of-famer Torry Holt?

    Wide receivers were quiet for a reason. We didn't need em.

    And I absolutely support the decision to play the starters deep into the second half. We haven't won the Super Bowl yet, people. We need to let that chemistry develop. "What if he gets hurt?!" is for baseball and tennis fans. Football, bitches!

    Actually, you wanna know the one thing I thought was wrong about today's game? Chris Long was on the wrong side. I swear to you, I could see it in his face, he was like, "Goddammit, I'd be tearing it up as a 3-4 rusher right now!!! Fucking Rams!!!!" Vernon Gholston woulda fit in perfectly with the Rams, Chris Long perfectly with the Jets. Oh well. I'll probably get over it a few years after he retires, hopefully.
     
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  2. sect105

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    I totally disagree. When should have the Jets shut it down? The entire second half? You don't just empty the bench in a blowout like this for a team that has accomplished nothing and trying to gain an identity.
     
  3. 611LWC

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    I think that while we could have rested the starters sooner, I think every snap played by the o-line which has been revamped allows for the gelling process to continue. So I understand why he played them as long as he did. I probably would have sat farve down sooner, i.e KC starts the second half. The first drive in the third quarter, I do not think it is unspportsmanlike to throw the ball. However, by the time he came in, I think it would have been. It would have been good to see KC behind the first team line in a position where he had more of the offense to execute other than hand-offs, even if it was for just a series or two...
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, yeah...I understand that. Just do it in a normal week, not when you play again in 4 days. This is NE after all and we want badly to beat them. Take any advantage you can get. It may determine who plays and who sits in January.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Wait..you say leave them in but it's ok for them to sit out the last quarter? What's the difference, you can't have it both ways. If it's ok to sit them at all it's ok to do it when they have a 44 point lead. Otherwise play them to the end is what you are saying.
     
  6. Chrisp22

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    No complaints except the bathroom line was long after the first half. No one wanted to use them during play. Too exciting and fun to watch I guess.

    Great day of football.

    Be loud, be proud!! Go Jets!!!!!
     
  7. Jtuds

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    My only complaint is Favre's 2 bone-headed passes that should have been for sure picks.

    he threw one into triple coverage for Stuckey and if the DB had been one of our guys, it likely would have been 6 the other way. On that play, he had a guy open too...

    I don't remember if anyone was open on the second such play, but again he should not have thrown it to the guy he intended to throw it to.
     
  8. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    do you remember the arizona game? it was absolutely the right move for those guys to stay in. its not like either of those guys have a history of being injured. favre wasn't being knocked down, tj was running his ass off. i bet if you ask either one of them they would have been fine staying in the whole game.

    now the reason you keep them in for the second half is because you dont want another situation like the arizona game where you have to keep putting points on the board because the other team is coming back on you. they kept the 1st team in the game, ran the clock and nobody is any worse for wear. i know the thread is about what we can complain about this week but this is a bad pick. complain about favres two bad passes or gholston, complaining that we had the starters in too long is stretching it.
     
  9. packerbacker1234

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    I'm not really upset about Favre. I mean, he went 14-19 with a TD and 0 ints. Sure, he could of had 1 or 2 ints in the game, but watch all the other teams play. Every QB in the league has a ball or two per game that SHOULD be picked, but isn't.

    It's the way it goes.

    Overall, I don't really know what there is to complain about. I see most mentioning a couple "mistake" throws by Favre, but the man had a very nice strike deep down the field (which, again, that REALLY opens up more running lanes whent he Defense knows at any time Favre can go deep) and a pretty TD pass.

    It was a complete game in all phases for the Jets, even for Favre.

    Does he get no credit for not throwing a int for the first time this season? Who cares if he "should of had one", he didn't. Nice game all around.

    There will be games later in the year, and most likely in the playoffs, where Favre is going to have to play a bigger role, and that is why you have him for those moments. Thur could be one of those games. Even the best running teams get shut down and hopefully Favre is the guy that can carry the Jets to a victory in those moments. Next week, and specifically Tennesee, will be games that Favre will play significant roles in a victory.
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Sure I remember it but that was Arizona with Warner, Fitzgerald and Boldin. A bet the mortgage playoff team this year. Not the Rams with nobody. They have to use a little more common sense than that.
     
  11. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    when the team plays as well as it did yesterday things that are normally overlooked will be noticed. your right every week passes should get picked but aren't, the fact is those two passes were about the two worst things the team did all of yesterday. if yesterday was a normal game those two passes would probably be afterthoughts.

    its actually a good thing that is all we can come up with as far as negatives. im waiting for the game when favre wins the game with his arm. it hasn't happened yet but im sure it will. dont take people criticizing favre the wrong way. thats really the only thing that stuck out in a game when pretty much everything else was perfect.
     
  12. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    ok no wonder pretty much everyone ignores you. the jets learned from a mistake, they let up way to early against the cardinals. they decided to keep the pressure on and keep a team they were manhandling down on the ground. nobody was injured, the rams weren't taking cheap shots at anyone. your argument really has nothing of substance to it. nothing bad came out of the starters playing into the second half.
     
  13. Popeye's Army

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    One possible justification for leaving the starters in: keeping the momentum rolling. Favre, TJ, the defense, etc were just dominating their opponents and having fun out there. While it would have been nice to sit the guys for Thursday, maybe some of this super play will carry over. And that's even more important than resting their legs.
     
  14. packerbacker1234

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    6 TD's against Arizona - THat is pretty much Favre saying "arizona, get the hell out of here".

    And, last I checked, Arizona is a pretty decent team. Possible playoff caliber team.

    Of course, that is not what you mean. You mean a tight game against a really good opponent where favre plays near flawless, makes some plays that it seems only he can ever make happen,a nd somehow get that crucial game winning TD down the stretch.

    I would love to see that happen against an undefeated Tenn team.
     
  15. fenwyr

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    Favre was less than spectacular and Lowery went through some growing pains. Coles and Cotch were MIA, but more because the running game was good than any fault of theirs.
     
  16. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    They let up? The starters were still in..what on earth are you talking about? Do you even have a clue? The following week was their bye so of course they weren't coming out. The fact that they gave up that lead was a because it was Arizona who can score in bunches against anybody. For you to try and make the comparison between then and yesterday is just as ridiculous as when Mangini did yesterday and everybody laughed at him. They asked Bellichick the same question but of course there is a difference when you are again by 10 then when your lead is 44. Mangini had no excuse.
     
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  17. KOZ

    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    Hodges didn't get enough touches.
     
  18. JohnnyJohnson

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    Actually Favre threw very good yesterday. 54 yards in the air? Remember? Zipped the ball to Keller in the EZ?

    Every single QB is going to throw a pass or two they wish they hadn't.
     
  19. Gloom N Doom

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    Ok..I'll take your word for it. I just saw what they flashed on TV. Being a darksider, I had to come up with something.
     
  20. FOURTHANDLONG

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    We played our starters to long on both sides of the ball. It should have been Clemens or Ratliff time at the beginning of the 4th quarter.
     

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