I was thinking about it yesterday in terms of our quarterbacks developing and it annoys me that we released Decker. Marshall had to go because of his cancerous attitude in the locker room. But these quarterbacks aren't getting a fair shot with these receivers. I know that there is some talent there with the rookies and Peake/Anderson, but there is also only 1,638 total career receiving yards between the wide receivers and tight ends (excluding the runningbacks). Both Petty and Hackenberg would've greatly benefitted from throwing to a legitimate established pro receiver. Our mantra this year is to develop youth but there are some places where you should not cut corners when it comes to developing these guys. Same thing with the offensive line although we at least signed Beachum. I would've liked to at least see SOME veteran talent brought in or kept (Decker) to help these freaking guys out. That can show the young guys the ropes and give a safety net for the young quarterbacks to lean on. Just another frustrating part about how this roster has been constructed.
He's not some deep threat like Desean Jackson that will only benefit from playing with a big armed quarterback. He's one of the better possession receivers in the league in the intermediate range of the field that moves the chains and runs crisp routes. That would've been perfect for a young quarterback.
As I understood it, they wanted to bring Marshall back, but he had no interest because of the state of the team. I think once they weren't bringing Marshall back, they decided to go all in on rebuilding the offense. I agree with you, though. You need at least some veteran talent to stabalize things so that you can function as you evaluate. Letting Decker go was a mistake.
When there are rumors your #2 WR might not even make the team (Peake), you have put your QB's in a terrible position. Add to the fact the O-line is terrible, and Hack/Petty have no chance. McCown doesn't either, but no one cares, as they were just hoping the young guys can learn and improve in 2017. It's a shame and a mess.
The Jets should try to make a move for Jarvis Landry if they could, even though Miami is in our division. Reports are saying that they're seriously considering trade offers for what thats worth.
Marshall was under contract for 2017 for $7.5M but it was not guaranteed so they were able to release him
And here I was under the assumption for many months that MM was a lot smarter than Bowles?!? For me Mac started off a few years ago as a grade B manager based on what he did Then came the Mevi$ and Fitz fiasco plus the unchecked spending on FA with mediocre draft picks Throw in the association with super dummy TB to bounce your ideas off of and now you have grade D GM Way to ruin your career Mac...you need to sign up for the Stanley H Kaplan remedial course in how to GM Absolutely pathetic... TBH I didn't like them asking Deck to leave but he was injured...but now ASJ is really your only vet less Enunwa injury So it goes for this ship of fools heheh
Right, but I believe I read in multiple places that they were initially interested in bringing Marshall back and only decided to release him after talking with him and realizing that he had no interest in being part of a rebuild.
Whether it was as you state, or if Mac had a different reason for going all in on a youth movement, or it was Woody's orders to cut expenses since the team would be losing a lot, it was a big mistake. Both Decker and Mangold should still be here.
Based on the context of the conversation, I'm assuming you mean Marshall and not Mangold. Anyway, I'm not sure I can be too critical of them deciding to let Marshall go. He's the type of guy who you don't keep around once he's let you know that he's not interested in being there anymore. And, I'm not exactly sure what happened with the team infighting last year, but it sure as shit sounds like Marshall was in the middle of it.
No, I meant Mangold. Marshall didn't want to stay. I already knew that they had asked him his preference, but he didn't want to stay. I thought it was stupid that they even asked or wanted him back. He quit on the team last year and there was bad blood between Richardson and he. One or both of them had to go. They should have kept Mangold to help lead and stabilize the OL and to make the protections calls for the young QBs.
Yeah I don't get the rush to get Mangold out. It would've made sense if we needed that cap space to go out and spend a ton on free agency but we clearly didn't want to do that.
Young QB's need a talented surrounding cast to mask their deficiencies and to slow the game down and make things easier. In a year when evaluating a highly picked QB, Jets decided it best to ship Decker off, and have ignored OL for a few years. All of this is literally the worst formula to evaluate the progression of a young QB. Jets are in a never ending cycle of ineptitude because they continue to go about building a team the wrong way. The basis of having a good team, especially with a young QB was done when Sanchez was drafted. Great o-line, great running game...fast forward to 2017 and its the complete opposite.
I can think of only three possible reasons why they cut bait with Mangold. One, the Jets thought he was done or there was a chronic medical condition that would hamper his play and prevent his staying healthy. There may be some validity to that idea since no other team has even contacted him about playing. Two, Woody or Mac wanted to create more cap space for next season. Three, there was some kind of problem between Mangold and Bowles.
I would agree but it seems like the Jets dont think Petty or Hack will ever be a franchise QB anyway so they have decided to literally blow it up That's the only explanation I got, because if they were trying to see if one of them could be a franchise QB theres just no chance they would go with the O-line and WRs we have and expect to get a serious evaluation on them Going to be a long season with hopefully bright days ahead
I would have kept Mangold and Decker to at least the young QB's a reasonable chance, now they have nothing besides Powell, watching Forte the other night, he looks cooked
