Since I started rooting for the Jets when they were the NY Titans, I wouldn't call myself a "new" Jets fan, but I am new to this site. After 54 years, I'm really close to throwing in the towel on this apparently inept team, but before I do, I thought I'd join in some discussions to see if I could gain some insight and perspective. But I have to say that based on my over half a century of watching them, I believe the main problem is the owner, and not just Woody now, but Leon before him. We've been cursed with two guys who are clueless about how to build a good franchise, and until we get someone who does, we'll continue with the futility we've had. As to more specific thoughts/ideas, I'll try to post them to the appropriate thread, and also try to remain open-minded (well, not completely close-minded ), and see if I can learn anything that would convince me to continue beating my head against this green wall.