Trading Richardson will be a SOJ mistake

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  1. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    Yea he can be immature from time to time, the sniping with Marshall is annoying to no end, but the guy is in the absolute prime of his career, is a game changing disruptor on the defensive line, and can absolutely be a part of the solution if we land that franchise QB in 2018.

    If you trade him you'd damn well better get at least a 2nd rounder in return, or a good player that fills a need that we have that we can build with in the future, like an offensive lineman or a WR.

    I would be disappointed with even a 3rd.

    I know we foolishly locked up Mo Wilk but you know what...figure out a damn way to keep Richardson. It's one thing to rebuild, it's another to tear down for the sake of tearing down and misidentifying that you just don't kick this kind of talent to the curb. Because he will go somewhere, and then Belichick will nab him, and then he'll hoist a Lombardi and make us pay. Don't let that happen.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Call me when he finally has that breakout season fans have been clamoring for. Hasn't earned the big cash.
     
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    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    He's been tremendous since we got him. He's not like Mo Wilk who clearly takes plays off.

    The guy is a football animal. If he's playing out of position, then fire the dolt who has him out of position.
     
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    Aero Well-Known Member

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    It's not fair to call signing Wilkerson long term a foolish move after one down year, coming off of a week 17 injury. You can point to the missed meetings last year, which were concerning, but you're also saying we should sign the other guy who was guilty of the same thing.

    That said, I'd also like to try and keep Sheldon, but given his off-the-field stuff, the Jets probably shouldn't break the bank for him.
     
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  5. No..letting him continue to be a distraction for a season followed by letting him walk for nothing in the offseason would be SOJ..

    He's not a fixture in the rebuild.If & when the team actually contends he'll be long retired.Move him for assets while he getting is good
     
  6. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Yeah I still never saw that dominating season from Richardson, fans are clamoring about.

    He's not playing out of position nearly enough where it should affect his stats
     
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    Mark my words - you read it here - Richardson will have a breakout season - that little exhibition he did against the Giants starting front OL, is just the beginning. It will be a very stupid maneuver by the Jets to part with him with anything less than a starter and a 2nd round pick.
     
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    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    It was very noticeable, even the idiot Giants homer announcers talked about how good he looked.
     
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    I totally disagree. I'd be willing to bet as soon as he gets his big contract, his motor gears down, and he winds up getting in trouble again. He's not worth the risk, and the Jets would be stupid to tie up that much cap space in the DL when it's not even the most important position or position group in Bowles' D. If he were trustworthy to not get in trouble again, would grow up and keep his mouth shut, and keep playing hard after he gets his next contract, you might have a point, but imo he isn't trustworthy, has shown he can't keep his mouth shut, and I don't think he'll keep playing hard.

    I agree that if we can rehabilitate his image, we may be able to get a 2nd rounder for him, maybe more if we can find a trade partner in a playoff team who has their top defensive lineman go down with a season-ending injury.

    Signing Mo was not foolish. That's ridiculous. Sheldon is not nearly the player Mo is.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Spot on!
     
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    "Mo Wilk was coming off an injury last year.......Mo Wilkerson's gonna be right as rain in 2017..."

    Muhammad Wilkerson has been nearly invisible thus far this preseason.
     
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    Well this is a huge year, correct? I believe Wilkerson is easily cuttable at the end of the season and saves the Jets 17 million on the cap.

    If he disappears, he's gone.

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    Two things, both centered around the player not mentioned here.

    1) If anyone is getting a mega deal it's going to be Big Cat a few years from now who IMO already deserves it more than Sheldon based off of his on and off the field actions.

    2) Mo was coming off of an injury. Mo has broke out, only time will tell but I think Mo will be the better of the two players between himself and Sheldon. Back to how Big Cat fits into this. I think Big Cat's drive and demeanor will hold Mo accountable for any plays he would otherwise takeoff, I really do. I think Big Cat is really going to embrace this role of leadership and take this team over.
     
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    Who is Richardson distracting? What has he done wrong besides bicker back and forth with Brandon Marshall earlier in the offseason? All the guy has ever done was give 100% effort.

    I don't think signing Mo was foolish at all, he was coming off an injury... tbh I didn't think the injury was 100% the case with Wilk, but might have slowed him down. The team fucking sucked badly last year and games like vs Indy on primetime would cause any player to shut it down mentally for the year.

    Him and Sheldon are both primed for a big year IMO! They need it big time.
     
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    Great point, I would also like to add that if Williams is to fulfill his potential and get that big deal, he needs to play in a 4-3 defense with his line mates being able to fit the 4-3.

    I don't know if the Jets will ever go that route but if they do, you will see his productivity take off.

    3-4 Defensive linemen should not be paid big contracts, only because the role they play in the system, they are not pass rush specialist, if Big Cat was a 4-3 DE, I can see him getting a huge pay day because he would be nearly unstoppable and a game changer.
     
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    Can definitely agree on that. I thought Leo was our best player last season.
     
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    He played 70 snaps out of position last season and had a total of 1.5 sacks. People need to stop blaming the coaching staff entirely when it comes to his underwhelming production the last two years. He has played a role as well, and in 2016, an even bigger role than 2015.

    Now that he can get paid, which he's stated it's all he cares about is getting top dollar, he will play hard in 2017.

    Come 2018, he will revert to his past tactics.

    I'd much rather get a 2 or 3 now instead of a late 3rd round comp pick in 2019 when he bolts for richer pastures next offseason. There's no way the Jets will give him a long term deal that some stupid team like Jacksonville or Washington will.
     
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    Don't take preseason performances by veterans too seriously. Players like Mo know exactly when to turn on the juice. Wait and see what transpires in the Buffalo game.
     
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    Leonard Williams needs to be the focal point of the defensive line going forward.
     
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    News flash the Giants offense line is garbage( why they won't win anything in 2017) . So was it surprising that Sheldon Richardson look so good against the Giants. We should get excited about that.

    Let's see Sheldon Richardson do something against a very good offense line in week two. The Raiders interior offenseline is no joke( Lg K Osemele, C Rodney Hudson, and Rg Gabe Jackson) Sheldon Richardson plays well against that offense line and than that's a big deal.
     
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