The PI on Robby Anderson - another league apology?

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  1. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Oh, please, don't even go there. And no challenge.
     
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  2. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    THAT was a safety.
     
  3. grkmanga31

    grkmanga31 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a believer in the refs having out for us, but I do think that the refereeing needs to be completely overhauled in the NFL. Too much left to interpretation, not enough challenges... It's another discussion to have in general and it spans the entire NFL.

    In regards to yesterday, 2 main calls that come to mind that should have been reversed (forward progress on clear safety sack on Cousins and Rhodes PI on Robby).
     
  4. Bowles Movement

    Bowles Movement Active Member

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    He is correct.
    The DB had an arm bar on Robby keeping his right arm down
     
  5. Bowles Movement

    Bowles Movement Active Member

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    It would have been nice if they had looked at that, but it might have required a challenge by No Balls Bowles
     
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  6. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    That was well earned
     
  7. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was a safety too but if it's when you make contact then...no no safety

    What sucked was the crappy field position we got after it
     
  8. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    See, this is a great example of how screwed up the NFL rules are. They bend logic into pretzels in their effort to manipulate their desired outcomes. I'm old enough to remember that a fumble was when you lost control of the football at any time up until the play was whistled over. There was no "the ground can't cause a fumble" nonsense. Or when they decided that "spiking the ball" to stop the clock was okay, instead of either intentional grounding, or a fumble. And now we have them deciding that it's when contact is made that determines when the play is dead for a Safety? If that's the case then that means that as soon as the RB, QB, or receiver is hit by the first tackler, the play should be dead at that moment. But of course that's not how it works. No, if the rule is that when Cousins was hit the play was dead that is a monumentally stupid rule, but all in keeping with the nonsensical rules the NFL keeps creating to try and make up for the previous monumentally stupid rules they've made in the past. And because they've complicated the rules so much they've been forced to adopt instant replay because the refs can't possibly be able to see what's happening and make the proper "interpretations".

    But this is how the NFL can manipulate the outcomes it wants to drive the revenue streams that pay the most. And underneath all of this is the real driver: gambling. The game, and rules, aren't made for the fans, they're made for the gamblers. That's the NFL's "dirty little secret".
     
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  9. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    At least Mike Pereira is getting laid...
     
  10. Cidusii

    Cidusii Well-Known Member

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    In the end it's forward progress. If a WR is tackled past the sticks and driven back, he still gets the first down. If Cousins broke the tackle, then got tackled again in the end zone it would have been a safety.
     
  11. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    But there's two problems with that interpretation:

    1. He wasn't going FORWARD, he was going BACKWARDs
    2. They mark the ball at the farthest it traveled in that direction. Forget the safety for a second and say it was another play out on the 30 yard line, and Cousins goes back to pass, and is grabbed by a pass rusher at the 38, but then breaks free and goes another 5 yards backwards to the 43 and then gets taken down - do they mark the ball at the 38 or the 43? They mark it at the point he went the farthest, in this case the 43. The same principle should apply with the safety - he might've been hit prior to the goal line, but his "forward progress" carried him, and the ball, over it. If this was the "correct call" per NFL rules, then my contention remains - the NFL rules are governed by considerations other than logic and common sense.
     
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  12. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    The flag wasn't for throwing the ball...the flag was for Robbie telling the ref he wanted to skull fuck his wife!
     
  13. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    Be grateful that Robby only threw the ball at the official and didn't threaten to do anything to his wife. Too soon?
     
  14. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    No. Too late. See the post directly above yours.
     
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  15. Cidusii

    Cidusii Well-Known Member

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    1. I don't know that the rules care about which direction you're traveling as much as the furthest point forward you were during the tackle process.

    2. By that example, if he was tackled at the 38, didn't break free, and was driven back to the 43, they'd still mark the ball at the 38. I don't recall Kirk breaking the tackle that started at the 1.
     
  16. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Happens to every team in the league. Both ways.

    Refs F up.

    Fans are funny with their paranoia
     
  17. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    thought the same thing when it happened. Moronic monotone bowles can't get the silly grin off his face to ever challenge a ref.
     
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  18. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    But Cousins was headed toward the sideline but away from the line of scrimmage when he was first grabbed, but not controlled. He tried to fight off the defenders and put himself near the goal line with the ball, having "broken the plane," in the end zone when he was brought down. His knees went down outside the end zone but the ball was in.

    Points and possession were involved - a challenge was called for.
     
  19. NYJetsO12

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    A stick? How be ride him out on a Rail..grrrr
     
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