The Dunces Have Elected A Dunce

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  1. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    I agree there's defense spending that can be cut. But overall I'd rather live with wasting some money and causing some problems in foreign countries than going isolationist because I think the eventual outcome would be worse. You're free to disagree.
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I don't think pure isolation is a good idea. Sometimes you need to go kick some ass or help someone out. N. Korea for example, may need their asses kicked, or at the very least have some missile launch pads destroyed.

    But what we've been doing? Completely insane.
     
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    PJ O'Rourke on foreign aid: Taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
     
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    Seth Rich? . That's rich.

    Marc Rich? . Denise Rich? . That's fact.
     
  5. Antoni

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    Why is this White House arming Ukraine? Pretty bold move for someone to be tied up in Russiagate to be pissing off Putin this way. Trump and the clown director of the CIA were so in love with WikiLeaks prior to the election, it would only be fitting if Putin released some leaks as a result.
     
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    No modern presidency is complete without getting involved in an unnecessary foreign conflict. The military industrial complex needs to get fed.
     
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    Richie Rich ?
     
  8. nyjetsmets89

    nyjetsmets89 Well-Known Member

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    More trolling or more Tourette's-like disdain for the Clintons? Let out the hate elsewhere dweeb.
     
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  11. RonPi

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    The 3% you get in your paycheck is going to be dwarfed by the 15% more you pay for health care.
    Meanwhile the super-rich become even richer.

    Ron
     
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    ^ You opened up the 'Rich' pandora's box so no need to get all emotional, esp. in the face of facts:

    - on Jan. 20, 2001, his last day in office, Bill Clinton pardoned money-grubbing international fugitive Marc Rich.

    - Denise Rich, his money-grubbing ex-wife (who give $100K to Hillary Clinton's Senate run and $1M to the DNC during the Clinton era) donated $450,000 to the Clinton Foundation in the run up to Clinton's pardon.

    "Distain for the Clintons?" What distain were you referring to? Was it the New York Times calling it "a shocking abuse of presidential power" or the normally Clinton-friendly New Republic calling it "Exhibit 'A' of Clintonian sliminess" or was it Clinton's own White House counsel Judge Abner Mikva who quoted President Barack Obama as being "very, very dismayed by the Marc Rich pardon and the basis on which it appears to have been granted?"

    And if if that's not bad enough, here's a guy who's right up your alley, Barney Frank, who said: “It was a real betrayal by Clinton of all who had been strongly supportive of him to do something this unjustified. It was contemptuous.”

    "Let out the hate elsewhere dweeb?" Hate? Here's what I hate: I hate money-grubbing pigs like Marc Rich and Denise Eisenberg Rich who renounced their American citizenship for reasons of money.

    Money.

    So, who was this Clinton-pardoned, Clinton-contributing "Rich?"
    Rich had traded illegally with America’s enemies including Ayatollah Khomeini’s Iran, where he bought about $200 million worth of oil while revolutionaries allied with Khomeini held 53 American hostages in 1979. For money.

    Rich made a large part of his wealth, approximately $2 billion between 1979 and 1994, selling oil to the apartheid regime in South Africa when it faced a UN embargo. He did deals with Khadafy’s Libya, Milosevic’s Yugoslavia, Kim Il Sung’s North Korea, Communist dictatorships in Cuba and the Soviet Union itself. Little surprise that he was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted List.

    Money or U.S. Citizenship?

    What kind of a moosecock-sucking fool would sympathize with these money-grubbers? Surely not me and I would hope not you.

    Even Bill Clinton eventually admitted that the pardon had been “terrible politics.” “It wasn’t worth the damage to my reputation,” he said.

    How beautiful: it wasn't the vileness of the pardon itself that soured Clinton on it but the "reputation fallout" that ensued. smh..

    "Distain?"
     
  16. nyjetsmets89

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    God damn what a post.

    EDIT: definitely surprised by your restrain to not mention Jonathan pollard when referring to money grubbing. Guess there’s some room for growth after all schmo.
     
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    Ummmm...Flynn and Manafort have already pled guilty.

    Ron
     
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    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-gop-tax-bill-and-the-death-of-american-democracy/


    "How this monstrosity came to pass is a more complicated matter, one that
    could use a fact-finding mission or two of its own. By mid-December, less
    than a quarter of Americans supported the plan, and an overwhelming majority
    correctly observed that it was designed to help corporations and the rich,
    not the middle class. Every single Democrat voted against the bill, including
    centrists up for reelection like North Dakota’s Heidi Heitkamp, West Virginia’s
    Joe Manchin, and Montana’s Jon Tester. Virtually every major newspaper in the
    country, as well as many leading economists, had editorialized against it.
    To overcome this wall of opposition, Republicans used special rules that evaded
    a filibuster, and they deep-sixed the town-hall meetings that protesters had
    earlier used to successfully rally in defense of Obamacare (although some
    activists managed to break through, like the courageous Ady Barkan, who suffers
    from ALS and who confronted Arizona’s Jeff Flake on a plane).


    But this gamesmanship is just the tip of the anti-democratic bulwark that
    allowed the GOP to shove this transparently corrupt scheme through Congress.
    What the party-line vote revealed is that the Republican caucus is entirely
    insulated from the normal populist considerations that ought to prevail in a
    functioning democracy. They are captured by self-interest—whether personal,
    political, or both. If you were betting on Senator Lisa Murkowski to have a
    conscience, bet again. As Representative Chris Collins, who voted for the bill,
    put it, “My donors are basically saying, ‘Get it done or don’t ever call me again.’” "

    Ron
     
  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Manafort was charged with a bunch of things having nothing to do with Trump or his campaign and he pleaded not guilty.

    Flynn pleaded guilty to lying.

    Looking forward to the 2nd Trump induced liberal mental breakdown when you dopes finally realize there's nothing to the conspiracy theory.

    The real collusion appears to be democratic operatives using the levers of the government and justice system in an attempt to prevent one presidential candidate from beating another.

    but you aren't interested in justice - just getting rid of the guy you don't like.
     
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