The argument for taking a QB at 6

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  1. JethroTull

    JethroTull Active Member

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    I've heard too many flawed arguments in the media that the Jets shouldn't take a QB at 6 for the following reasons.

    #1-Jets aren't set up for a QB to have success as a rookie
    The Jets have two young QB's on the roster. The rookie QB doesn't have to play.

    #2-Next years QB class is going to be great
    Not really-Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen look to be good prospects, but there is no guaranty that either declares next year. Especially Darnold who has two years of eligibility left after next season .

    #3-Drafting a QB would show the world that Mac doesn't know what he's doing
    This is really stupid. If either Hack or Petty show something this year the Jets will be able to re-coup a draft pick for them in a trade. Look at the San Diego Chargers for example who drafted Philip Rivers a couple of years after drafting Drew Brees.


    Drafting a QB at 6 was done 5 years ago when you had to guaranty those draft picks big time money. Now its really not that big of deal.
     
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  2. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    The only quarterback worth the 6 pick is Watson, but he'll be long gone before we pick. Just take the best player available on the board, or trade down. Cross our fingers and hope we land a future hall of famer.
     
  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2009 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award

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    If you miss on a QB at 6 you have still wasted an extraordinarily valuable asset, the #6 pick, and at least 2 years looking at the player and probably an entire blowout on the coaching staff for the QB's on your team including QB Coach and Offensive Coordinator.

    On top of that, there's no way the Jets take a QB next year even if they suck this year, because the GM will have too much on the line after spending successively a 4th, 2nd and 1st on a QB. Taking another QB on the #1 to #3 would maybe find the QB or maybe not but the team would certainly be weaker in other areas after spending a 2 and 2 1's successively on a QB.

    Who do the Jets have to get a Herschel Walker type return on and where is the sucker out there who will bail them out with a huge overpay to make up for all the picks spent on QB's at that point?
     
  4. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    But if you hit on your FQB at #6 you're a genius.

    Jethro Tull's Argument #2 is the biggest reason why the Jets need to grab Mahomes or Watson at #6 this year. There is NO guarantee that:

    A. Either of these "saviors" will even come out.
    B. Either or both will actually liver up to their billing.
    C. That the Jets will "win" a top 3 draft pick assuring them of getting a shot at these guys.

    "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush".

    The only reason the Jets should NOT draft a QB at 6 is if they are certain that Petty or Hack are the answer. I'd be shocked if this is the case. And if Macc signs Cutler (Please god no!), or another "serviceable" vet QB, this will tell us how much faith he has in Petty and Hack. And if he doesn't think they're the answer, I'm hoping that rather than sign another retread stop gap, that he takes the plunge and drafts the best QB he can at #6. This way he forces Bowles to play one of the 3 young guys and we can build on that from there.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Mahomes or Watson at 6 would be so stupid. They aren't gonna do that anyway
     
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    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    The argument against taking a QB at #6: None of them are worth a #6 overall.
     
  7. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    Watson is worth a top 5 pick in the draft let alone 6.
     
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    xxedge72x Well-Known Member

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    It's simple. If MacCagnan drafts a QB at 6 and misses, he'll be updating his resume on his express plane back to Houston.
     
  9. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    No he's not. He is not that good
     
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  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2009 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award

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    The QB's in this draft are a mixed bag. Nobody is a perfect prospect or anywhere near that. It's definitely better than 2013 and maybe approaching 2014 but not better than that group. Like 2014 nobody has any handle on who is going to hit and who is going to miss and the 4th guy chosen, likely Mahomes at this point, is just as likely to be a starter as the other three. The odds are really good we'll get two outright busts out of the four plus a passable NFL QB (Brian Griese level) plus a good starter.

    Good luck figuring out who's who because like 2014 I can't even begin to figure out which of those guys is going to hit and which is going to miss and anybody who says they can is deluding themselves.

    The Raiders took Derek Carr after passing on him once and letting several QB needy teams pass on him twice.
     
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  11. BakerMaker

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    People are too impatient these days. You can't judge a QB based off 1 season or any player for that matter. For all we know, Prescott after teams have tape on him can fallback down to earth. Taking a QB each draft until you have one is such fallacy, giving such a tight leash for a QB's development to flourish in 1 year is crazy. Josh Freeman in his rookie year/sophomore year was very good now he isn't in the NFL....
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    None of the top quarterback prospects this year have any experience in a pro style system, all college style spread and/or air raid. I'm out
     
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  13. playtowinthegame

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    And if he passes on Watson should he be there at 6, he'll never live it down with Jets fans starvin for a franchise quarterback. If Hack and Petty flop, and Watson become league mvp, Mac will be looking for a new career. Houston won't even have him back. He can do a radio show with Charlie Asserly.
     
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    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't think the draft was that weak.
     
  15. Br4d

    Br4d 2009 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award

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    Drew Brees was a spread QB and so was Derek Carr. Pick #32 (1st in 2nd round) and pick #36 (4th in 2nd round). That's where one of these guys has some value, maybe any of them.
     
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    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    I'm no Nostradamus, but someday I'm gonna bump this. Lol
     
  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2009 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award

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    Will you bump it if you were wrong and he was right?
     
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  18. Terminated117

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    I don't see it
     
  19. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    I won't be wrong.
     
  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2009 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award

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    Certainty of a given result in the NFL Draft is not possible unless you're talking about the best possible candidate and even then some no-brainer #1's (Bo Jackson, Aundray Bruce, Courtney Brown, David Carr, Sam Bradford, etc.) have disappointed in the end.

    None of the QB's in this draft are no-brainer #1's however maybe you'd like to put your ranking of them on the record for later observation? You have an 8.33% chance of being right just on random probability if you put all 4 names in a hat and drew them out.
     
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