So let's go back a couple drafts and play revisionist history of what could've been to fix this offense. Just for the sake of looking at this team as if we had an offensive minded franchise. And just for funsies because it's still preseason and we're looking at an awful 2017 anyways. 2013 1st round: CB Dee Milliner & DT Sheldon Richardson Could've taken: OG Chance Warmack, OT DJ Fluker, OG Justin Pugh, OG Kyle Long, TE Tyler Eifert, WR DeAndre Hopkins, WR Corradelle Paterson, C Travis Fredericks 2nd round: QB Geno Smith Could've taken: WR Robert Woods, RB Le'veon Bell, RB Eddie Lacy, TE Travis Kelce 3rd round: G Brian Winters We'll stand pat here 2014 1st round: S Calvin Pryor Could've taken: WR Kelvin Benjamin, OT/G Joel Bitonio, OG Xavier Su'a-Filo 2nd round: TE Jace Amaro Could've taken: WR Jarvis Landry, WR Allen Robinson, WR Davante Adams, RB Jeremy Hill, RB Carlos Hyde, OT Jack Mewhort, OT Justin Britt 3rd round: CB Dexter McDougle Could've taken: OG Gabe Jackson, WR Donte Moncrief, WR John Brown, G Trai Turner 2015 Leonard Williams looks to be a great pick for the record, but just tossing some of these names out there 1st round: DT/DE Leonard Williams Could've taken: RB Todd Gurley, OT Andrus Peat, WR DeVante Parker, RB Melvin Gordon We'll stand pat with this selection though. 2nd round: WR Devin Smith Could've taken: WR Devin Funchess, OG Mitch Morse, RB Ameer Abdullah, OG Ali Marpet, OT Rob Havenstein, OG AJ Cann 3rd round: DE Lorenzo Mauldin Could've taken: RB David Johnson, RB Matt Hones 2016 1st round: LB Darron Lee Could've taken: WR Will Fuller, WR Josh Doctson, WR Laquon Treadwell, OG Josh Garnett, OT Germain Ifedi, TE Hunter Henry, WR Sterling Shepherd 2nd round: QB Christian Hackenberg Could've taken: OG/T Cody Whitehair, WR Tyler Boys 3rd round: OLB Jordan Jenkins Could've taken: OG Graham Glasgow So in short, this franchise sucks at the draft period.
You could do the same for every franchise and come to the exact same conclusion. Drafting has been bad but not really any worse than most of the league. I just read an article about the Dolphins 2nd round picks and it made our picks look great. The problem has been the Defensive focus , some misses on Offensive players and injuries like Enunwas and Devin Smith's. 2014 really crippled us but Mac or the next GM has to focus on the O for a change. Let's hope the FO has seen the state of this pathetic offense and they wake the F up...
Really sad and pathetic. You forgot that the Jets could have taken Teddy Bridgewater or Derek Carr in 2014. They also could have taken the following players in 2015-2016 as well (I posted these in the Kony Ealy thread): In the 2015 draft, he could have added players like: Todd Gurley, Cedric Ogbuehi, Laken Tomlinson, Cameron Erving, Donovan Smith, T.J. Yeldon, Jake Fisher, Tyler Lockett, Tevin Coleman, A.J. Cann, Ty Sambrailo, Ty Montgomery and others. To be fair, there were high profile offensive players he could have taken too that have pretty much been busts or not done much. In the 2016 draft, he tried to trade up for Laremy Tunsil. In the 2016 draft, he could have added players like: Joshua Garnett, Germain Ifedi, Sterling Shephard, Derrick Henry, Jason Spriggs, Michael Thomas, Nick Martin, Cody Whitehair, Le'Raven Clark and Graham Glasgow.
Of course. I was bored though and wanted to see what could have been in a perfect world. Man, even swap out McDougle for Trai Turner and Amaro for one of those receivers and we'd be in such better shape. Also, @NCJetsfan I decided to exclude quarterbacks because we'll seemingly never have a franchise quarterback so we can forget that pipe dream.
A gold mine and we had an army of picks that we could've cashed in on. Imagine we made the right selection in just two of those rounds? The franchise might seriously be in a different place right now.
The problem with the Jets is that they don't have an overall scheme or identity they build towards, and instead they rely on the philosophy pf BPA. So what if they have an abundance of DL? If the BPA is a DL they'll grab him without a second thought! The most successful teams don't do that, they know what kind of players they want and they go after them, even if the "conventional wisdom" says those players aren't the BPA - if they fit their identity, they grab them, and they don't try to force-fit players into their system, they make sure the players they get already fit their system. Until the Jets get an architect to create their identity/system, they'll just going to be chasing their tails. Macc might be okay at identifying talent - maybe - but he doesn't have an overall plan or vision. It's like he's trying to build a great car and he wanders from car maker to car maker, taking an engine here, a transmission, there; a rear end here, a body there, etc. Even if they're the best parts and pieces, you can't just put them together and expect them to work well together. They desperately need a Pres. of Football Ops to oversee a true rebuilding.
That throughly depressed me. You would think with the amount of money, time, film watching, scouting that teams would have this down to a science. I honestly think I could do a better job than these so called experts.
Good analysis. I've come to hate the BPA. It gives whoever is making these picks cover. They need to be held accountable for these picks and lack of production from the draft process. I seriouly think they could do a better job if they just threw darts at the board. How else do you explain taking 2 safeties in the first 2 rounds. Safety is probably the least taken position in the first round next to placekicker and the Jets who are woefully awful in all phases of football took another one in round 2. Now I like Marcus Maye maybe even more than Adams but we could have gone in another direction in round one.
Christian McCaffrey is going to be an absolute stud IMO. He's the type of player that does so many things that you can tailor an offense to him. He's a threat from anywhere. I would've loved to have grabbed him. He was considered a reach, but I still would've been fine with it if it meant giving us our first legitimate game changer on offense since I can remember.
If you skip the Geno pick in 2013 then you go into the season with Sanchez. Which means we get McElroy when Sancho goes down against the G-Men........................unless you plan to keep Tebow or Quin on the roster or pick up Leinart, Young or JaMarcus from FA? That ofc will impact where we draft from then on, who is drafting and so on and on.........
I just remember rationalizing the MacDougle pick hard to myself. I knew it made absolutely no sense to me. A 6th round talent drafted in the 3rd. Why not wait at least one more round before going for him? Then I thought, okay well Idzik must really know something about this guy that others dont. He didnt, and thats why he isn't a GM any more.
The reason they don't have an identity is because philosophies change every 3-4 years as new coaches are cycled in and out. You can say we are going to be x type of team but it takes a few years to get the players needed to be x. By that time we already are carrying the pitch forks and torches to drive out the regime and bring in a new one who wants to be a z type team. But we just spent 3 years getting x players so now we start again. Now, we are going into year 3 and you can already smell the torches burning. If we want an identity we are going to need an owner or president willing to take the abuse while he gives a coach/gm more than 3-4 years to build something. I say this including myself as part of the problem
With the exception of Sheldon Richardson who has no common sense, not one of those players had any heart whatsoever. Rocks for brains. Toss in Quinton Coples, Stephen hill, Gholston and you've got a pile of worthless losers. Collectively they won't add up to Julian Edelman in the 7th round.
Of course I wanted Mahomes, but would've been happy with McCaffrey as a consolation prize. Look what he's doing for Carolina. I'm not saying he would've single-handedly transformed the Jets, but he sure as hell would've helped the QBs and the rest of the offense. Maybe you can argue that Adams was a better player, but he;s not that much better than Maye, and had they taken McCaffrey instead they would've greatly helped the "O" and the "D", instead of just the "D".
