Brad Did someone hack your account or something? You were a very mellow poster and I was(and I still am) one of your biggest fans. But nowadays you are a little bit sarcastic like that bad guy Stokes. What changed?
This is a great question to which there is no universally correct answer, but for myself, I will say it should be about 5th or sixth grade. Just before you know the bombs are about to go off, but not so early that you are growing your kids up too soon. No right answer for sure. My own dad was so old school that we never had this discussion until I was in grad school. He was disapproving that I slept with my pizza in his house. I was like "so NOW you want to have a talk about sex motherfucker? You think I was waiting for you or something?" Actually have a good laugh about it now.
Brad has me on ignore because he hates college QBs and makes up crazy reasons to hate them and I mock him for that. _
Lesson 1. Pure biology. How things work, what to expect, stress that changes and desires are normal, not to be ashamed of. While talking about evolutionary purpose, eg procreation, explain that it comes with a degree of pleasure and that mature adults enjoy it for other than babies reason, and that it's desirable and normal for both genders. Good time to explain hormons, mood swings and mention protection. Show pictures, not porn, but anatomical to help understand form, structure and function. Lesson 2 Repeat 1 in shorter version and add different scenarios, eg straight, gay, self. I stress that my love for the kids is unconditional, but being honest about opinion. Lesson 3. Technique. This where I give advice as a man, along the lines of "make effort to please, she tells friends and you end up with unlimited supply of pussy". This is the time for videos -- nothing crazy, certainly won't give site addresses, just 2-3 basic variations. My son is 12. I spoke to him first time about 6 months ago. Second time was a couple of weeks back, pretty much repetition of No. 1 with very little new material. He was more calm and open the second time. When to start the talk, that depends on your kid. You're the parent, you should have a good feel for it. With a girl, I'll start earlier, probably around 10.5-11, depending on how fast she develops. My reason for this is to have the basics in place before the first period so she isn't scared. Above is just my opinion, there are guys here with grown kids who've done it differently.
Actually it was an honest question. I'd love to see a chart of where the Middle Class in the west is these days compared to 1960. I'm betting that there's been a huge change in where the income in society settles since then.
Probably. But like I said, regardless of its validity the argument that since the behavior did not originate with porn therefore porn couldn't cause similar behavior it in today's youth is nonsensical argument in and of itself.
There are thousands of things that could have caused similar behavior but without any evidence of a link why try to create one based on one man's opinion? Why was this article quoted to begin with?
When I was growing up all we had was woods porn. Mags you would find in the woods and it would be fucking awesome. Now kids pull up youporn on their phone and watch some creepy shit. I caught my 9 year old son on some perverted shit on youtube. Now he has zero access to the internet unless he is in the living room with an adult. I know this woulnt do shit though because he has friends, and go's to school. Point being, there is nothing we can do, just hope your kid isn't fucked up.
you can also apply a filter on the home router which means no matter the device he wont get access to porn. OPENDNS offers free filters that block adult sites.
Look at the Kinsey Institue, I bet they have something like what you're looking for. From a history perspective I can tell you these things are constantly changing, often with a pendulum like sweep. For example, Victorian Europe had an acceptance for Lesbianism that most people don't realize today and even sodomy was tolerated in certain circumstances. Mind you this was considered one of the most sexually repressive times in recent history! And yet these homosexual behaviors found a level of acceptance within Victorian society, but as a niche. Under no circumstances were they to leave that niche. An example would be where girls were bedded together and often "explored" each other. if that sounds like a cheesy porny it is probably because that was as much sexual education as these young women ever got, so it was accepted as fairly natural that the "kiddies would explore" sorta thing. Young men did the same thing, but it was more abusive. In boarding schools older boys who were sexually mature but had no sexual outlet would often sodomize younger boys. This would then lead to a "shit rolls downhill effect" so that the when those younger boys became older, you know what they did? If you guessed they stopped the abuse then I'm sorry, you didn't win the prize. If, however, you guessed they proceeded to victimized the next generation in exactly the same way they were victimized then you win! This behavior became acceptable to the extent that it was considered a virtual part of growing up in certain parts of England. And you thought bullying was bad in your school..... at least you didn't get sodomized....
Sounds like your Dad just wasn't a Watermelon man. I'm a honeydew man myself..... but to each their own.
Bravo man, bravo! A helluva better than my parents ( well, mom) did for me. Basically she gave me a book and told me to ask her questions when I had some. Instead I found my stepfather's stash of Playboys and figured it out from there. Apparently when I was quite young, like 6 or so, I got ahold of these mags and my mom found me flipping thru them saying, "okay, I want that one, and that one...... That one.....(flip, flip) ..... That one and that one...." Yea, there was never any real concern about whether I was gonna grow up straight.
Very good. Not so much, but what there is lives in the commuter belt around London, is aged over 55 and reads the Daily Mail. Edit - it did kind of come across a tad sarcastic, but I'm a big boy. I'm not sure that middle class over here is entirely to do with income or profession in the way it was, but more with outlook on life. I'm not entirely happy using any class terms, but it was the best shorthand term I could think of for that particular grouping. It is certainly a lot more fluid than it was in the generation before mine.
Can confirm. Porn has ruined my life. Have had much therapy to get over having such a small 8 inch penis.
It's my fault for not explaining my statement. Humans are sexual beings. There's no way around that. Teenagers have been trying to satisfy those urges for centuries, regardless of what people teach or what is available. I'm kind of dating myself here, but in my day, it was penthouse or playboy magazines stolen from dad. They didn't have internet porn or TV porn channels. The point is, that's what teenage boys do. I'm not saying porn plays absolutely no part in behavior, but correlation does not imply causation. The article referenced things like gang rape and sexual crimes and tried to blame it on the porn. There are numerous other factors that lead to kids making poor decisions that harm others. Porn is just another scape goat on the pile of them. I do not believe porn leads to gang rape or other disgusting things, just like violent movies don't create mass murderers. Something else has to be wrong in the head for somebody to knowingly plan out a rape.
