Only one in 2017?

Keeping the season in perspective:

We are going to have A LOT of young guys playing, so I think if you can sit back and analyze young players in 2017 with the future in sight, it can be exciting.

Not "playoff" exciting, but in a more reserved kind of way

 

If the Jets land Patrick Mahomes today, I'll be excited for months about our new franchise QB.

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no way do they take Mahomes at 6

 

I'd much prefer to get him after a trade down, but honestly, if they believe in him enough to take him at 6, I'll still be excited. Maybe even more so considering the belief would have to be astronomical to make that selection.

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While I do understand the concept of "if you believe he is your franchise quarterback, you take him", I Also believe that tape shows more than combine/pro day and all of that

I just dont think he will transition well to the NFL, and if the take him at 6 they BETTER be expecting to play him week 1

 

What's wrong with his tape exactly? He's not a combine warrior. The only knock against him is the system he came from and it's been demonstrated that he's employed advance concepts that other QBs have not, including Trubisky.

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I'm not saying he CAN"T transition, I'm saying it's unlikely. And when they can get a impact player at 6, you don't take someone as risky as him.

Remember he started as a 2nd round grade at best after the college season ended and over analysis had him creeping up boards

 

Don't take this as being aggressive / argumentative, but I don't really care what the mocks have said.

I've spent an awful lot of time researching this kid (and the other QBs as well); I'm no scout but from all the information I'm taking in, I'm convinced he's the player that's right for this team in their quest to emerge from the basement of the NFL.

Again, the only risk with him is the offense he comes from, and again, there is plenty of evidence mitigating that risk. He reads defenses, he calls his own plays at times, he's able to look off defenders and go through progressions, he's able to keep a play alive long enough to find an open target and is superior to most QBs in that regard, he can run when necessary but it isn't his first instinct which is also a positive attribute, he can throw the ball with incredible power from very awkward positions thanks to his baseball experience. He's been around professional athletes his entire life and will have an advantage in terms of knowing what it takes to succeed in a professional sport. Good humble kid, leader on the field, holds his players accountable, makes everyone around him better.

When I weigh all those things vs the fact that he's been mocked in the second round, I'm not that concerned.

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no worries, I don't offend easily, and appreciate an intellectual conversation

He may be the real deal, but i don't want to fall into the black-hole of the Cleveland Browns (brown-hole, if you will ) and reach every year (Hack) and miss on getting impact players, like Howard or Adams or core players in round 2-4 and waste draft picks.

 

I'm a Jets fan, I have low expectations ingrained into me.

 

I totally understand that viewpoint. All I'd say is that QB is not alone when it comes to first round busts. It's definitely fair to say that Howard and Adams are safer picks than Mahomes, but I think Mahomes offers greater opportunity than anyone in the draft to be a player the entire team can build around.

Ultimately what I think doesn't matter, but if I'm putting my money where my mouth is, I'm shooting for the sun and taking the guy I believe can be the lynchpin for turning the entire franchise around, and that's Mahomes.

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can't be mad at you for going with your gut.

I personally am pulling for Howard, as we have not drafted a 1st round TE since Kyle Brady?!

And I feel like we can use a legit over the middle threat/mismatch to give Hack a legit target to see if he can sink or swim.

 

If we end up with Howard I definitely wouldn't be mad. He's a great prospect and is going to make some team very happy.

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ha, I think most of us are traumatized for at least one position the Jets have bombed on multiple times

 

What does Kyle Brady or Johnny Mitchell have to do with Howard?

 

Potential 1st round bust and the teams history for finding impact TE's from any source...recalling the Doug Jolly fiasco...