Mets Regular Season thread

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  1. statjeff22

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    And another one - Frazier out with an oblique injury. Less competition for Pete Alonso at first base, I guess.
     
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    Did Nimmo not cook the chicken right or was it salmonella? If your chicken has salmonella no matter how well you cook it, you're going to get infected no matter what through incidental contact with something in the kitchen, it's almost impossible to keep everything properly apart and sterilized
     
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    I think people assumed this is where he was gonna land( if he was going for every cent he could get) but Bryce to the Phillies. $330M

     
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    Very skimpy details so far. 10 years or 11? Any buyouts on either side? How much is guaranteed?

    It will be interesting to see how this works out for them. Unless their owners are the new Steinbrenner this would seem to put them out of the Trout sweepstakes in two years, and to me Harper isn't even close to being the player that Trout is.
     
  7. GordonGecko

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    13 year deal, 330M
     
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    No opt outs for either side.

    Less per year than Machado, more guaranteed money.

    Boras kind of got taken here--good deal for Phils.
     
  9. GordonGecko

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    I don't see how Boras got taken, you can only say that if you were expecting the ridiculous 400M number that was never going to happen in the first place
     
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    He got taken two ways.

    1- he has always been about getting the biggest deal ever and while his contract is technically that--his per year salary is a full $5 million a year less than Macahdo which is huge and is only $5 million total more than the Stanton contract from 4 years ago.

    2- he was supposed to get an opt-out after 3 years because once Trout becomes a FA salaries will be over $40 million a year and possibly $50-55 million.

    Not that anyone should cry for Harper but Boras did a very un-Boras like contract.
     
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    Are we so sure about that? With cord cutting cable revenue keeps declining and those mega TV deals are going to start declining. Baseball popularity is also declining, younger generations are not picking up the sport. I'm not saying baseball is going away or salaries will crash, but I'm not seeing how this isn't a high water mark for player salaries at around $35M max
     
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    13 years? Wow. That is insane.
     
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    Bobby Bonilla will still be getting paid 4 years after that. :p

    Bryce Harper ex:2031
    Bobby Bonilla ex: 2035
     
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    Bobby Bonilla day party at my place!!
     
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    I don't know--for 2-3 years all we were hearing was that Harper was THE free agent on the come.

    That he's getting paid $25 million per year less than the Machado contract is kind of surprising. And less than 12 other players is really surprising.

    1. Zack Greinke, $34,416,666 (2016-21)
    2. Nolan Arenado, $32,500,000 (2019-26)
    3. Miguel Cabrera, $31,000,000 (2016-23)
    … David Price, $31,000,000 (2016-22)
    … Clayton Kershaw, $31,000,000 (2019-21)
    6. Clayton Kershaw, $30,714,286 (2014-20)
    7. Max Scherzer, $30,000,000 (2015-21)
    8. Manny Machado, $30,000,000 (2019-28)
    9. Roger Clemens, $28,000,022 (2007)
    10. Alex Rodriguez, $27,500,000 (2008-17)
    … Yoenis Cespedes, $27,500,000 (2017-20)
    12. Jon Lester, $25,833,333 (2015-20)
    13. Justin Verlander, $25,714,286 (2013-19)
    14. Bryce Harper, $25,384,615 (2019-31)
     
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    I wonder how the specter of CTE will factor into this.... I'm sure alot of parents will want to push their kids in a direction other than football, and I'll say down here in FL (particularly NE FL), LAX has been the big beneficiary. When I first came here for college in the early 90s, people were like "Lacrosse?!? that's some weird yankee sport" .... now it's everywhere
     
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    I hope those guys can live on those salaries..... Ramen Noodles can fill your belly in hard times
     
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    Great contract...for the rest of the NL east. In a few years when the Phils look to get rid of him but the Yankees, the only team to ever show interest in trading for these long term/high priced contracts, don’t want him, the Phils will be back to cost cutting.
     
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    I think it helps to divert kids to baseball from concerned parents , but football will always find athletes. Lots of football players come from places where possible CTE 5 decades later pales in comparison to your risk of getting shot or imprisoned by the age of 19. But the science on CTE isn't fully established. Have a look at the book by ex player Merril Hoge, he casts all sorts of doubt on the relationship between contact sports and CTE. Of course everyone was quick to tear him a new one but he's absolutely right there is no proof. The 90-whatever percent of players found to have CTE were self selected base on symptoms, they are not examining the brains of healthy players when they die. The papers published by Boston University were very poorly done. The most interesting point he makes is they are finding all sorts of cases of CTE where the person had no physical trauma, in non-athlete teenagers and even in babies. Logically it makes sense that repeated head trauma would cause serious problems, but it has not been proven that it causes CTE or that if it does, what portion of the population is affected or what contributing factors are involved
     
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    Interesting spring so far for Dominick Smith. He was apparently diagnosed with sleep apnea, and now sleeps with a mask. He claims that his concentration is much better. The only bad game he’s had this spring was the day after a night not wearing the mask. It’s well-established that apnea can have large health effects, both short-term and long-term, so it would be something if this ends up turning his career around (and extending his life to boot). All of a sudden the Mets have two young guys looking promising at first base.
     

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