Mets Regular Season thread

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  1. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Walker was coming off a back w/back surgery and a bad hammy injury. He wasn't moving that well at this point either. He's a big guy and he's just about 32. They were probably happy to get anything at this point. Cabrera may stick as a utility guy if they can't get more for him.
     
  2. Red Menace

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    It's all about leverage, the Mets have none, teams know they can take advantage of them at this point. The Mets would do the same if the tables were turned.

    Terry Collins still employed?
     
  3. NYGalPal

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    I remember salivating at the thought of having the 5 Super starting rotation. Now it seems I have to say So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night to that dream.

    Now it's down to Syndergaard & Degrom!
    Harvey-done.
    Matz- Assuming his performance was due to his Elbow never being right. Even if we gave him that benefit, I see him as a bullpen guy.
    Wheeler- I also see him as a bullpen guy.

    What The Hell Did The Mets Do To Steven Matz?

    On Monday, the Mets announced that young starter Steven Matz was being shut down. Manager Terry Collins insisted that Matz was not hurt, telling reporters, “This is not an injury, this is not an injury ... If he had to pitch he could pitch tomorrow.” A few hours later, the Mets announced that Matz will be having surgery to reposition an irritated ulnar nerve in his pitching elbow, which sounds a hell of a lot like an injury.

    On one level, this is a typically Mets-y PR bungle, in which the organization decided it would be a good idea to march their always-harried manager in front of the press and have him tell lies that would be almost immediately refuted. This is the second time this has happened this year! We can all enjoy pointing and laughing and shaking our heads at that.

    But then comes this follow-up report from Newsday, in which it is revealed that the Mets’ bone-deep ineptitude didn’t just make Collins look silly in public, but may have actually put Matz’s health at risk. Get a load of this shit:


    According to a source, Matz consented to multiple pain-killing injections, occasionally on game days, to quell the pain that came along with an elbow that at times swelled to the size of a grapefruit. The pain came and went, though the elbow bothered him mostly between starts.

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    One source described a belief by some in the organization that Matz was simply learning to get over the “mental hurdle” of pitching through pain. Indeed, injury has been a constant theme throughout his career.

    The Mets, a team loaded with young pitching talent that should be competing for a World Series title every year, have once again been undone by injuries this season. Every one of their prized starting pitchers save Jacob DeGrom has spent time on the DL, and the everyday lineup has been a rotating cast of guys seemingly in competition to see how many times they can injure and re-injure themselves.

    Usually, you can write off a rash of injuries as bad luck, but given what’s in this Newsday report—that the Mets spent months pumping one of their pitchers full of painkillers so he could learn to pitch through pain—it’s starting to seem like the Mets, who have a long, rich history in this area, are once again the creators of their own bad luck.


    This team is ridiculous!
     
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  4. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    So Conforto swings and misses at a pitch this afternoon and dislocates his shoulder doing it. You can't make this stuff up.
     
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  5. GordonGecko

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    The league changed right under Sandy Alderson's nose and went completely over his head. Because starting pitchers aren't lasting more than 5 or 6 innings anymore, the league has gone from needing dominant starters to needing dominant relievers, of which the Mets have none. The problems with the starting pitching are due to the worst training staff in the majors who apparently let the players do whatever they want or straight out encourage bad practices.

    Syndergaard & Cespedes thought they were bodybuilders for some reason and came in all roided up and now can't stay healthy. Jeff Wilpon should have been fired a long time ago but since he's the owner's idiot son and can't get canned there is no excuse not to fire Ray Ramirez and his entire staff of incompetent bumblefucks who should never be allowed near a baseball player ever again
     
  6. Walt White

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    It's all Terry's fault. Such a bad guy and Manager. Multiple championships if it wasn't for him.
     
  7. Yisman

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    Cespedes shut down for the rest of the season.

    So Walker, Bruce, and Granderson traded for nothing, Conforto and Cespedes sitting...


    A lot more of those horrible lineups to come.

    Opening Day roster had over $150 million in salary.

    Now around $50 million.
     
  9. GordonGecko

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    guess it must be time for a price increase

    no seriously, they just raised ticket prices for the 2018 season
     
  10. stinkyB

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    or you could just walk up after first pitch and get them from people on the street for a fraction of face...... That's what my brother and I did for the Marlins sunday game last week. 8th row field level 10 bucks :cool:

    I wouldnt give those cheap fuks ticket $..... granted I did buy some over priced beer

    place is going to be a ghosttown the next few weeks.... and it should be. The Bruce trade was a disgrace
     
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    Now Flores shut down for the season
     
  12. NYGalPal

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    Jay Bruce must be so depress right now. I feel so bad for him. :rolleyes:
     
  13. GordonGecko

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    Cleveland Indians' Jay Bruce: "I went from one of least fun to most fun situations in baseball"

    that's a direct quote
     
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  14. Walt White

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    Finding another Terry Collins won't be easy for Mets
    Tim Brown

    Everyone seems in such a hurry to be rid of manager Terry Collins in New York.

    OK. Then what? Then who?

    A tough guy, like … Collins.

    A guy whose teams play hard, through injuries and roster holes and semi-committed ownership, like … Collins.

    A guy who could lead a club to a World Series, like … Collins.

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    A guy willing to wear all that sprays up on a manager of a team in New York, that carries himself with integrity, that loves the game more than you do, that earns every day honestly, that in the end had no better idea how to keep a young star pitcher whole than anyone else did and could not heal David Wright, like … Collins.

    OK.

    At 68, Collins, whose contract is expiring, looks done in Queens, disputed reports on Tuesday that he was going to retire in order to make it easy on Fred Wilpon and Sandy Alderson, or not. Ever the fighter, ever the organizational man, he would not seem to have it in him to surrender (his chaotic Los Angeles Angels departure notwithstanding.) But, perhaps, there is no winning against inevitability (and no contract), no saving the job if Wilpon has been convinced otherwise, and in that eventuality those who celebrate Collins’ departure will almost certainly agree with the new man’s every pitching change for the next three or four years.

    And that man will be Ron Gardenhire, if he’s up to it. Or Alex Cora, who definitely is. Robin Ventura, perhaps. Chip Hale is getting plenty of love. So are Kevin Long and Bob Geren and Ron Wotus. There are vibrations in Atlanta that say Ron Washington, the erstwhile Rangers manager, could replace Brian Snitker. But, if not there, then perhaps New York. Imagine Wash in New York.

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    New York Mets manager Terry Collins has 993 wins and 1,015 losses in his managerial career. (AP)
    We tend to separate our managers into those who embrace the new analytics, those who embrace the new analytics for the sake of getting the job and those who will tell you the only statistic they know are wins and losses. They are the ones who already have jobs and long-term contracts. Some in the first two categories are basically saying, I’m good if the general manager wants to make out the lineup every night, even if it’s dumb and I have to defend it anyway.

    The game has changed. The job has changed. The soul of the job, however, has not. There is a skill to getting nine or 10 men – of 25 – to play their butts off for three hours every night for six or seven months. To having those men be accountable to the other men in the locker room. To finding nine or 10 the next day, too. And the day after. It’s a surprisingly difficult job in some cases. It’s also about 98 percent of the job, which rarely includes acquiring the 25 from which nine or 10 are chosen, so you get what you get, and sometimes that’s great and other times you wind up in fourth place in the NL East no matter what.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/finding-another-terry-collins-wont-easy-mets-172849486.html


    That man earned every penny he got, and deserved more. His players and peers know that.
     
  15. NYGalPal

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    It sounds like it will be either Kevin Long or Manny Acta. Sounds like Acta has the edge.
     
  16. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Who knows what will happen, but Manny Acta's previous 5 1/2 years as a major league manager hardly inspires great faith in his abilities. He has never led a team to even a .500 record in a season, and has a .418 overall winning percentage. The Expos/Nationals were .500 or better 3 of the 5 years before Acta became manager, and became one of the best teams in baseball after he left. The Cleveland Indians were .500 or better 3 of the 5 years before he became manager, and have been over .500 each of the 5 years after he left. What exactly has Acta done to warrant getting his third shot in 11 years? Recycling trash is a great idea from an environmental point of view, but not from the point of view of hiring managers.
     
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    I know next to nothing about this guy. Maybe that's a good thing. No expectations of him being bad. No expectations of him being good. Clean slate. Indians fans seem to like him.
     
  20. GordonGecko

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    seems a little bit aloof, but should be fine

    The two biggest problems are Kevin Long (one of the worst batting coaches in baseball), and by an order of magnitude more of a problem, Ray Ramirez. This asshole Ramirez bulks up the players to the point of injury every fucking season and he gets away with it because he's besties with Jeff Wilpon
     

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