Macc's Season Ticket Holders Presser

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  1. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    From today's Jets podcast. They only accepted calls from season ticket holders, which was kind of stupid but it was pretty interesting to listen to regardless. Way more interesting than the official presser Macc had yesterday with the media. He was very blunt and straight forward with his answers, didn't really try to hide too much, wanted to be a little more transparent. Obviously wasn't going to give away all our plans but it was enough info. If you don't want to listen to here's a recap:

    RE: Draft philosophy
    - Feels like the first 3 rounds you have to hit, everybody has to. It's not as difficult compared to the later picks. After that that's when teams separate, with how successful you are with your later picks. He's very passionate about those later picks (4-7), values them a lot, that's what always excited him when the draft rolled around, being able to find good players late.

    RE: Offseason plans (locking Mo up)
    - We're still a work in progress, in a perfect world we want to keep all our players. They did their "internal selfscout", evaluating our own players, now they're working on putting the board together for free agency and we have our own players included there. They look at what each player might be worth going into free agency, how high we're willing to go with that contract and set a limit so you don't get into any bidding wars.

    RE: Team needs
    - We're a very big, physical team. Tried to get faster last year and add speed. Still wants to get faster. D-Line is very big & powerful, great against the run but in a perfect world we want to complement the bigger guys up front on defense with some explosive edge rushers. Mentioned Mauldin, Catapano but going forward we want to add another specialist in that area who can rush the passer. So sounds like they want to get a veteran guy, like a Freeney or John Simon (Texans connection, would make sense). Offense he wants to keep intact, try to re-sign Ivory & Powell of course and add to that. Wants to add more speed on offense and be more explosive. Mentioned Zach Sudfeld & Amaro (injured guys that they like that will be back), thought it was interesting he mentioned Sudfeld. Kellen is a FA, again in a perfect world he wants to make that position more competitive. Sounds like they want to add another TE who can be a factor on offense and in the passing game. He then wraps it up, pretty blunt: On defense we want to add a finesse type pass rusher to complement the bigger guys inside. On offense the TE position has to be more competitive, wants more speed outside (WR). Likes the O-Line, doesn't sound like they plan on making any lineup changes there or add any impact players. Instead they want to add younger guys for the future.

    RE: Players available in draft vs FA
    In FA you can more focus on what your needs are. Pass rushers are a premium in the NFL that's why they usually aren't available in FA. If they can find a guy like that in FA they'll obviously try to get him signed. But again, teams try to hold on to those guys at certain positions, they don't become available. So FA is more something you look at to fix a position or fill a hole for next season. Draft is more about long term success, it takes time, it's not about filling needs really but just drafting good players period. O-Line is something you can build through the draft, a lot of teams have proven that you don't even have to spend high picks (1st round) on O-Linemen except for LT. Same with pass rushers, you can draft them in the middle rounds and then as they grow they can develop into impact guys, there are plenty examples in the NFL. Rarely do you draft somebody at the top and he's a force right away. Great thing about the draft is if you hit on some rookies they basically outplay their contract, they perform better than the veteran free agents that you would have paid a lot more.

    RE: Bryce Petty
    Were very excited when he fell in the draft a little, giving us a shot to get him. Very excited about Bryce, he's what we thought he'd be in terms of his intangibles, great personality, hard working, smart. Great work ethic, commitment to reach his potential. Good athlete, great size, has one of the strongest arms, can make throws a lot of other QBs can't. Downside of course is his inexperience and the system he played in college. Everybody knew there would be an adjustment for him coming out of Baylor. Made huge strides in practice. Very excited to work with him in the offseason again, will be a very important offseason for Bryce in terms of his development. We'll get a better picture in preseason and compare it to last year to see how much he's progressed. Ability wise they definitely feel he can be a #2, the rest is up to him, he's got the ability to be a starting QB. Knew he was a project, but he has a bright future.

    RE: Mo's injury / contract talks
    It's a significant injury but guys recover fully from that type of injury. It's a 6 month recovery process, he should be cleared in June, gives him 2 months to get ready for camp and then we'll see where he's at. Injuries affect things, hopefully not too much with Mo. Sounds like if everything goes well they will start negotiating around when camp starts once he's back to 100%. There's no way Macc is going to offer Mo a Suh type contract while he's still rehabbing, so this will likely drag into camp again. Doesn't think the injury is going to impact Mo performance wise.

    RE: Cap room for '16
    Focus last year was to put the most competitive team we can out there. The thought process was to add these veterans to help the younger players to grow, mentioned guys like Revis, Skrine, Cro and Gilchrist. Great veteran presence. Long term success comes from developing young players, drafting good players so that's why we added those veterans. It wasn't because of a closing window or that we have to win now, the goal all along was to get veterans to carry this team for 1-3 years and help develop the young guys to take over for them at some point and play at a very high level. I'm assuming he's referring to guys like Marcus Williams.
     
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  2. Brook!

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    He has good plans on paper. I hope they turn out to be great in reality as well. I like Mac. He somehow gives me confidence. I like Bowles too. Two down to earth guys. Last year was their rookie year. And I expect next year to be better.

    Better not in terms of win total. Let's face it. We had an easy schedule. next year with AFC North and NFC West in our schedule, it won't be easy to get to 10-6 but as long as Mac shows he made the right choices in free agency and draft and Bowles shows he learned from his mistakes, I will not mind not making playoffs again. I just want to see that we are on the right track that's all.
     
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  3. Walt White

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    Wants more speed on the edges, D & O. Who's odd man out up front?

    Wants more realized out of the TE spot

    Geno's place as the #2 is in doubt
     
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  4. LongIslandBlitz

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    I like Mac so far......I just hope he hits a homerun in round 2 this year.Our latest second round picks have not gone well
     
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  5. Lee Savit

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    1st Post ever. Went to my 1st game 79' and loved the Jets ever since. So far so good on the new regime. I'm praying we draft an OLB!! (round 1)
     
  6. Jetsfansince95

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    LIB our second round track record since the mid 90's is beyond abysmal probably the worst in the NFL ... the only guy I would re draft would be David Harris
     
  7. Footballgod214

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    Thanks Ballhawk....another great summary
     
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    I think there's a thread somewhere to do this.......I'm praying we win enough games to make the playoffs next year ,welcome
     
  9. Burnz

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    Agreed! New regime seems better then last lets hope we see progress and a long term commitment to winning.
     
  10. LIJetsFan

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    "O-Line is something you can build through the draft, a lot of teams have proven that you don't even have to spend high picks (1st round) on O-Linemen except for LT. Same with pass rushers, you can draft them in the middle rounds and then as they grow they can develop into impact guys, there are plenty examples in the NFL. Rarely do you draft somebody at the top and he's a force right away."

    I quoted Mac above just to highlight something I wish all you draftnicks would keep in mind this time around. Please stop projecting OLB as our 1st round pick. Some of you guy do it every year and it's tiresome.

    edit: OP, nice post btw :)
     
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  11. James Hasty

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    If we take a 3-4 DE again in round one I will throw things at the TV.

    Also, how are all of those mid and low round offensive linemen that we took the last few years working out for us? Aboushi anyone?
     
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  12. DaBallhawk

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    Aboushi was our best guard last year, did pretty well for a late round pick until he went stupid in the offseason. But yeah, we haven't exactly lit it up with our late round picks as far as the O-Line is concerned but I think that was more on the coaching staff and the FO. Maccagnan and his guys in Houston did a great job turning mid to late round picks and even undrafted guys into quality starters. I think that's what he's trying to do here over the next few years.
     
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  13. James Hasty

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    Or maybe you get what you pay for when it comes to OL.
     
  14. Red Menace

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    I don't understand why it's so tiresome, Clay Mathews was a first round pick, Khalil Mack, Bud Dupree, Ryan Shazier, CJ Mosely, the list of OLBs that were drafted in the first round who made an immediate impact on their team is long, maybe MM is just throwing that out to keep people, especially the media from knowing what his true intentions are in the draft.

    BPA is how I would like them to continue to draft, playmakers are difficult to come by and if it's an OLB then so be it. I have no problems with our fans wanting an OLB, the Jets need 2 more of those guys.
     
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  15. Footballgod214

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    lol. The 'last regime' just kicked our asses and knocked us out of the playoff hunt. If that seems 'better' to you, oh well.
     
  16. MJK

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    The most interesting thing he said for me is something I said since he took over...the plan is to be competitive for 1-3 years till he can build threw the draft....this is not a now team like some have argued. When the Jets are true contenders none of these players will be on the team, till then maybe we can be in the wild card hunt a few years.
     
  17. James Hasty

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    correction, the last regime kicked our asses twice and knocked us out of the playoff hunt
     
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  18. LIJetsFan

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    I believe that the list of OLB's that are projected to go in the top 10-15 each year that don't live up to their draft status is much longer. Top 15 OLB is pretty hit or miss from what I've observed. Every year that are many voices on these boards that are advocating for one of them or the other as the "can't miss" guy. Every year maybe one is good, one is average and the others are below average. Drafting high OLB is more of a crap shoot than other positions. Anyway that is my story and I'm sticking to it. :)
     
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    More so talking about the combination of Izdik and Rex. And Tanny and Rex. One sucked at drafting and we basically cut every draft pick. The other sacrificed our future every year with the trading of picks and also giving some fucking retarded contracts that crippled the team. Pick your poison I think the current has an idea about drafting and an idea of the talent they brought in with acceptable contracts with ways to cut ties and move on as well.

    "Kicked our asses" is being generous we stood in our own way remove the first Quarter with that hellish wind basically making every throw drop/ become short...interfere with our kicks ....etc

    I understand being knocked out leaves a bad taste in our mouth but that loud mouth prick will never amount to anything anyway he's golfing just like us. Our season was better... he can take his morale victories while we build off this terrific first year
     
  20. James Hasty

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    I agree that there is a high bust rate for pass rushers but the guys at the top of the draft are usually the fastest and speed is something you can not teach.

    Offensive line is another story. Sure you have later round guys that cap surprise (especially guys with injury flags, etc,). Starting tackles, especially left tackles are usually found in the first round. Teams like the Eagles and Cowboys that tend to use high picks on interior linemen rarely regret it.
     
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