We have needed help on the O/L for years, especially as Mangold and Brick got older, but last years draft was one of the worst for O/L talent for years. Hopefully this years draft will be will be QB, O/L, O/L, O/L but once again it depends who is available.
The GMs pulled the trigger but do you really think Rex was kicking and screaming when we took defense with EVERY first round pick of his tenure as HC? Head coaches have huge influence on the draft in the Jets organization.
They can influence all they want but at the end of the day the GM makes the final call and the buck stops with them. When the owner calls you in his office to let you go, as a GM you can't say "the coach made me do it". Well, I guess you can try but you are still getting fired.
Whether its fair or not (I think its a joke), coaches are always the first to blame. Then the Offensive Line. Then the GM. Not even just a Jet thing IMO, I think it is just a football fan thing. Coordinators garner the most blame, then head coach, then offensive line. Seems like clockwork among NFL fans.
Mac will be labeled a genius- it's all part of the grand scheme of things - once the season is over they'll land the top 5 pick in the draft.
What is is this heresy? I criticized him last week and spent 2 days getting beat over the head for calling him not good. Now he is a moron and nobody bats an eye? Where's @SolidGoldBowles to defend his honor and list all his "good" draft picks
I still remember Rex's Tajh Boyd pick - no-one but Rex would have picked him. But generally I agree with you that it should be the GM who has the final say on a pick.
Does anyone think it's a coincidence that our last 3 coaches were defensive "specialists" and somehow the O line got largely ignored? That tells me the coaches had plenty of input into the drafting. The GMs we've had/have were nobody that belonged in the position and therefore gave the coaches largely what they wanted. How do you let the line decay year after year without addressing It? Because the last 2 coaches we had thought you could win a title with 17PF a game if your defense was dominant. Sounds great if it were 1995. The problem is none of the coaches really delivered great defenses. Ranked D means nothing when they fold when ya need them, which is as good as we've been for a decade or more. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
A bad offense exposes all of your defensive weaknesses, and we have been dealing with bad offenses for about a decade. I agree with the OP, but see this as an organizational failure beyond just Mac - we've spent all of our top picks on defense and lousy skill position players. At some point, there needs to be a balance, and we need to find some better talent evaluators.
I can assure you I've said exactly the same thing in another thread. My only point here is, yes, you can blame the coach along with the GM. It was clearly rex' philosophy that they could win with defense because all he ever said was "ground and pound" ...bowles just doesn't have a clue what he wants and defaults to what's comfortable Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Jets roster was a disaster everywhere, believe it or not. [Ok. Maybe not DL, but that's about it, no?]
They're taking a chance/risk on Beachum bouncing back to how he played during his first two yeas in Pittsburgh. It's been a while now since those days. I think he will be serviceable for us, but there will be times/games where he is simply overmatched. Same goes for Ijalana or Qvale at RT. You could see last year they neither should be a long-term starter in the NFL and Shell simply isn't ready yet, if he will ever be. As for Johnson vs. Harrison at C, so much for Johnson being Mangold's heir-apparent. What they should do is bring Mangold back, at least he can notice the formations/blitz packages the defense is in/are bringing. That alone would help this line tremendously.
Mac is a moron for picking Hack, plain and simple. Beyond that I do agree that he's a moron for not getting more O line help. But let's be real. The Jets O Line play hasn't been bottom 5 bad in the league. Maybe bottom half bad, but not bottom 5. Their QB's are bottom 5 in the league, undisputably. That's on Mac the Hack.
Funny, I seem to recall that the whole reason Buddy Ryan invented the 46 Defense was because he saw how much time and effort Weeb's Jets put into protecting Joe Namath. Its as if the Jets started this whole thing, but somehow now they can't manage to protect a QB, sack a QB, or even choose a QB....
No better evidence about how BAD the OL is than the fact that Dakota Dozier will AGAIN make the team as a backup. The jets couldn't have even taken a flyer on a couple of 6th round picks in 2017 for backup OL, instead picking two CBs nobody ever heard of? We ONLY drafted 4 Dbs in 2017, not sure that was enough. Next year let' s draft ALL DBs and receivers like this year!
