I hate Grimsley

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  1. wildthing202

    wildthing202 Active Member

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    So your saying it's impossible for a player to improve what so ever in a few years without steroid use. So it's safe to say A-rod is on roids just because he hit 50+ HRs.
     
  2. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    I would say ARod is 100% on roids, just like Ortiz..
     
  3. BIG COUNTRY

    BIG COUNTRY Well-Known Member

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    Cliff Flord:

    19996-6 homers

    2001-31 homers

    Granted he played in 30 more games but I doubt he hits 25 homers in those games:beer:
     
  4. GreenMachine

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    The difference is, once ARod became an everyday player his HR production has been consistant.
    Whereas Ortiz* had a major jump in a small amount of time.
     
  5. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    There is nothing noticeable in the career minor and major league stats of Ortiz, Rodriguez, or Floyd that would suggest, "Wow, this guy sure did all of a sudden start hitting home runs around this time."

    Those guys hit HRs in the minors, too.
     
  6. BIG COUNTRY

    BIG COUNTRY Well-Known Member

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    The thing is, until a credible source throws out names outside of Bonds, Sheff and Giambi you really cant believe anything.
     
  7. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    I would say all three have used some kind of performance enhancing drug..
     
  8. 10nyjets87

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    Nomar and brian giles are on the roids. Nomar because of all the injuries.. Yes after using HGH for a long time your muscles get to big and begin tearing. That explains all the injuries. Brian Giles because my brother knows a teamate of his and they were talking about it one night.
     
  9. wildthing202

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    Major jump:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
    Ortiz year by year
    2000 130 games 10 HR
    2001 89 games 18 HR
    2002 125 games 20 HR
    2003 128 games 31 HR - first year in Boston w/Manny
    2004 150 games 41 HR
    2005 159 games 47 HR

    Oh I'm sorry but where is this jump you speak of. Unless you count being in a better line-up a result of steroids there is nothing there but progression not every superstar is great from their rookie year on.
     
  10. GreenMachine

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    Never said Roids...HGH is his fix...
     
  11. JETSFAN5180

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    Who defines performance enhancing drug? So if a player drinks 3 energy drinks before a game and goes out and hits 3 hrs hes juiced?
     
  12. nyscene911

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  13. GreenMachine

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    Tell me you are not that stupid. These are drugs that are ILLEAGAL in the US...unless prescribed by a physician.
     
  14. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    If the substance is designed to make the player bigger, I have a problem with it.

    If the player does crack or smack or drinks a six-pack with every meal, I have no problem with it.
     

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