How Darnold Has Impressed Jets..

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  1. LF911SC

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    http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-j...es-look-at-how-sam-darnold-has-impressed-jets

    FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- After three months of post-draft hype, quarterback Sam Darnold makes his New York Jets debut Friday night against the Atlanta Falcons. The stakes are huge.

    He still needs to benefit from the growing that comes with experience, but first impressions of Sam Darnold suggest the Jets made the right pick in the draft.

    Darnold, picked third overall, has a legitimate chance to be the opening-day starter. After seven practices (he missed three due to a contract dispute), the organization's expectation level has only risen. He's had some rookie hiccups (five interceptions), but he also has provided a handful of wow plays each day.

    While the Jets' quarterback-starved fan base waits for the public unveiling, Darnold's new teammates already have formed impressions based on his demeanor in the huddle, in the classroom and in the locker room. Here's an inside look at the former USC star through the eyes of a wide receiver, an offensive lineman and a safety.

    Jermaine Kearse, wide receiver: "He's poised and calm. Every time I'm in there, I feel like there's no sense of panic by him. I think he has really good composure. Obviously, we haven't gotten to a game yet, but he just seems very composed and very confident in what he's doing, which is something you really want to see from a rookie quarterback."

    Ben Ijalana, tackle: "My locker is pretty close to his. In OTAs, every time I saw him, he was hunched over with the playbook in his hands. It was like he was reading grandma's Bible. He's quiet, he's chill. He's got a good head on his shoulders."

    On Tuesday, safety J.J. Wilcox intercepted Darnold twice on long passes in which he appeared to bait the young quarterback.

    Wilcox: "Yeah, I did. It comes from experience. I've got a feel for it on the back end. With Darnold, he's a great quarterback. He can throw it. I know that if I gave him an inch, he'd drop it on a dime, so I had to use a little of my playmaking ability and my experience to get the upper hand. I just leaned the opposite way, then came back to the other hash. I worked with him afterward; we talked about it. I told him the veteran safeties are going to be able to line up on this hash, but at the same time, have their body go to the opposite hash."

    Ijalana: "In the huddle, he has a great retention for the play. The play calls are so lengthy, so wordy. He'll hear JB [offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates] and be like, 'Got it. Hey, guys: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...ready [claps].' If you notice, when he's in the huddle, he doesn't look back at the OC. He retains the info from the play. It's cool. It's impressive. I wouldn't be able to do it. I think a skill like that will serve him greatly throughout his career, especially as a rookie."

    Kearse: "His eyes are always down the field, even when he's scrambling. I've noticed that. As I watch the film more, I pay attention to see what he's doing with his eyes, trying to hold the safeties off. As far as a first impression, it's the eyes. The pocket mobility -- his movement in the pocket -- is good, too. When we start seeing preseason games and you can get hit, that's when we'll start seeing what it's all about. That's the biggest thing. It'll be very telling in the first game."

    Wilcox: "He's got potential. [On Wednesday], in the red zone, he was dropping dimes. You can tell, the more he gets comfortable, the more it zips out -- the more it jumps out at you. You can see why the scouts in the NFL were so heavy on him, because when he's confident and he sees it, he lets it rip. As a rookie, that's hard. I was impressed. He has the zip to get it in there."

    Ijalana: "He's got some nice touch on his passes. He makes some sweet passes. In minicamp, there was a play ... he rolls left, he jumps in the air, he throws it and he lands perfectly. The receiver catches the ball and Sam looks back. I was like, 'Jesus Christ, this kid is nice.'"

    Wilcox: "For a rookie, you want to keep [the pass plays] simple. Keep it to maybe one side of the field, run a route combination for maybe man and a zone-beater on the same side of the field, so he gets comfortable. Once he gets that confidence, he can go from progression one, two, three, four, like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady."

    On Monday, Darnold showed he might be beyond half-field reads, demonstrating veteran-like awareness on a short touchdown pass to running back Trent Cannon. Darnold looked to the left, trying to find a receiver. No one was open. Then, as if he had eyes in the side of his head, he pivoted to the right and found Cannon all alone in the end zone.

    Darnold: "So that was a man/zone-read type of thing where one side was for man and the other side was for zone. So I read man, went to the man side, saw that he wasn't really winning over there, came back because the other play we drew up on the other side is a zone-beater. But it's also a great man-beater, too, so I just had time to come back to that group. Had protection by the O-line and was able to find Trent there in the corner."

    Kearse: "As far as playing football, he's gotten better every single day."
     
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  2. Zach

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    I fucking hate WCO. I really do. WCO is so 80's.

    I really wish Jets started anew with E/P system.

    Make no mistake about it - I love their concept and approach. But when it comes to the communication, WCO fails hard. As in, fall-on-your-face kind of hard.
     
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    I ain't a big fan either...but it beats the Wildcat.

    I used to love the stretch/vertical game that the Raiders ran. The 49'ers were effective with it as well. We have some speed on the offense...we would need to pass block better.o_O
     
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    Based on the other rookie QB’s preseason debuts, we should get to see Darnold throw about 20 times. Pressures on as the pundits seem impressed with the other rooks so far.
     
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    When it comes to running the West Coast Offense (WCO), you need a quarterback who’s accurate. It’s also an offense based on quick and short throws. According to Pro Football Focus, Sam Darnold was the best in college football on the quick plays in the WCO.

    He led the nation in accuracy percentage — which accounts for things that could be or are outside the quarterback’s control (ie. throw aways and drops) — on the quick throws. He was also the best at hitting receivers in the best spot to catch the ball.

    According the Pro Football Focus QB annual guide, Accuracy+ is “percent age of throws on the receiver’s ‘frame’.” He hit the receiver within that target area 19.1 percent of the time.


    While the NFL is a completely different animal than college in terms of coverage, there was only one NFL quarterback with a higher overall accuracy+ rating according to PFF — Tom Brady.

    SAM IS MADE FOR WCO
     
  6. jetophile

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    I am in no way shooting the messenger, but what kind of shit is this?

    "He still needs to benefit from the growing that comes with experience, but first impressions of Sam Darnold suggest the Jets made the right pick in the draft."

    My 95 year old neighbor could've have written that. I think Sam Darnold is 100% capable of carrying a true WCO. To date, it's never truly worked successfully in NY, but I don't worry about Darnold. I worry about other players on the team who can barely read the directions on a Lysol aerosol can. Agree with Zach as to communication, yeah, it can fail hard. Can't wait to see the Jets suited up tonight, though. GO JETS!
     
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    Pennington ran the WCO. Jets are not running a strict WCO, it's more of the Shanahan WCO that they ran in Denver,
     
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    One thing I would like Sam to have is a better completion percentage than the other rookie QB'S
    J ALLEN- 9 FOR 19
    MAYFIELD- 11 FOR 20
    I thought Mayfield & Allen both had good games...like you said, the pressure is on Sam..... Time to shine!
    Speaking of QB'S ,....The Giants will be shit out of luck if Manning ever goes down:p
     
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    Mayfield had a very good game. He made throws under pressure, read the field well and had nice touch/accuracy on several throws including TD. If Darnold looks anything close to Mayfield last night then it's a strong positive.
     
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    They are shit out of luck if he stays up...
     
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    You didn't understand what I was disgusted with.
     
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    We should try that new system that coach down in Miami just invented, I think it’s called Bobcat or something like that…
     
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    I know your post was a sarcastic one but now with Terrell Pryor here, a former NCAA/NFL QB with blazing speed and long strides; we'll definitely be able to add a wrinkle of surprise as an added offensive element. Think Brad Smith of 2009; he was electricity for us.
     
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    It will be interesting to see what it looks like with Bates having full control of play calling.
     
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    Are there any sites that I can access form my PC, I live in Scottsdale and the game will not be on out here....????
     
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    Its on NFL network so maybe you can find it there? BTW, I used to live in Sierra Vista and did a lot of work out a Luke AFB.
     
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    To all my TGG pals.
    The day has finally come. Let's enjoy the first glimpse of Jets 2018 football. This year is special, because for once we can at least hope, wish and watch the making of the long awaited FQB. It's been way, way too long in the making.

    I don't remember the last time I was so looking forward to a pre-season game. Things I'm looking forward to see tonight. How about you guys?
    1- Unquestionably, first and foremost is the poise, excitement and progress of Sam Darnold
    2- Is there a TE in the making?
    3- Rookies and undrafted free agents - give me 2-3 diamonds in the rough
    4- Teddy B show casing debut
    5- Men on the bubble - Running out of chances to shine
    6- is there a pass rusher in the house.
    7- A defense that never rests - Slackers be gone

    Biggest concern - The OL

    Enjoy the moment - Go Jets
     
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    First look

     
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    Especially given the reports that the beginning of games a year ago were scripted by Bates. Because it most games the offense was clicking early and then we would start with a lot of strange play calling. Which is why Morton was fired.

    Don't think we'll see much tonight unfortunately
     
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