Thought he deserved his own thread. The architect of one of the most thrilling, captivating, polarizing teams in NY sports. Drafted Strawberry and Doc, hired Davey Johnson, traded for Hernandez and Carter. Geez what a fun time that was back in the mid-80s. Shea was the place to be. RIP Frank and thanks for the memories. _
He built what should have been a dynasty, it still amazes me how that team only won 1 WS and 2 NL East titles. I am a Yankee fan but the Mets owned the City in those days thanks to Cashen and co.
Drugs, booze, partying, petty jealousy, injuries, age. Should have produced 2 of the greatest players of all time and those dudes wasted their careers. Honestly thought when we got Kevin McReynolds we were set for another run. _
great team no doubt but I will disagree w/ you there. The '98 Yanks are the most dominant I have seen. the 2nd place team won 92 games and finished 22 games behind the Yanks. They only lost 2 games in 3 postseason series. The Mets were dominant but the 2nd place team won 86 and finished 21 1/2 back and in postseason the Mets lost 5 games in 2 series.
Yeah the difference between 21 1/2 and 22 is huge. The yanks never ran into Mike Scott in the playoffs. This could result in one of those pointless threads you like to engage in. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
He is compelled to play the dick. I just don't get the compulsion. He'd be a great poster if he just lost that dickatude tude. _
It's a fucking Frank Cashen dead fucking memorial dead thread. Can you save your bullshit Yankee inferiority complex bullshit for the Duke indicts UNC for academic irregularities thread? Jesus what the fuck is wrong with you? Hey, Mother Theresa just died. Yeah but Joe DiMaggio was still more holy. Seriously, WTF junc. _
Cashen was a great great GM. An interesting little tidbit is that despite his pride in what he did with the Mets he never got over them beating his Orioles in 1969 (he was head of baseball operations in Baltimore at the time). I know I'll regret posting this, but it's pretty clear that the 1998 Yankees had the most impressive major league season since 1920 (this can be established statistically based on regular season record and postseason performance relative to the major league norms at the time; I've run the numbers). The 1986 Mets, 1970 Orioles, and 1975 Reds are pretty much tied for second place. Of course, that doesn't necessarily prove which team was the best one, just which one had the most impressive performance.
Please start a thread about the most impressive major league seasons in history. You and Junc can then go felate yourselves. It's a dead fucking Frank dead fucking Cashen thread. You guys have 27 World Championships. How big of a douches do you have to be? John F Kennedy was an awful husband and a shitty president. You happy? _
You really should get back on your meds. Anyone here could tell you that I've been a Mets fan for more than 50 years.
I'm on vodka. I have no idea what type of fan you are. It's a Frank Cashen RIP thread. If you have the compulsion to discuss the greatest Yankee teams in a dead Frank Cashen thread, the architect of the most enjoyable Met team in the past 3 decades, I'd suggest you need to be on some meds. Wtf. _
We had our say about Frank, did you think this would be a 100 page thread on the greatness of Frank Cashen? we expressed condolences, I praised him and his team. another poster posted something I disagreed w/ and I responded. learn hoe message boards work. I AM a great poster. One of the best, if not THE best, here.
22 when the 2nd place team wins 92 games vs. 21 1/2 when the 2nd place team wins 86 is a wide enough margin. Mike Scott accounted for 2 of the losses. you lost 3 more. in postseason the Mets were 8-5, the Yanks were 11-2. take away Mike Scott and you were 8-3 and the Yanks were 11-2. Better either way. The '86 Mets were great, they weren't the '98 Yankees.
I'm not a Mets fan, dummy. Not that you don't have a point. 98 was pretty epic. Stokes, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Quite frankly, I'm shocked someone hasn't derailed the "Tony Gwynn is fucking dead" thread by mentioning how much more dominant a player Derek Jeter was/is. _
I would say the 1998 Yankees were the best and the 1986 Mets were the second best teams in my lifetime if anybody asked me. They both won the World Series, though, so who gives a shit who is better. It is like arguing the 1975 Steelers vs the 1989 49ers, but that is football so that might be an argument worth having. Nerds have ruined baseball arguments (see a post in this thread). These people have already determined everything in baseball history by the use of mathematics. It sucks. I just watch Mets games through Memorial Day and worry about my fantasy team the rest of the season. It is a waste of time to argue about old baseball stuff.
