Facts About Under Rated Jets Wide Receivers vs. League

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  1. BudJet

    BudJet Well-Known Member

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    It’s commonly known that the Jets have built a wide receiver group centered around size. Save for return specialist Andre Roberts, every receiver on the Jets roster is 6’2 or taller.

    Even with that extraordinary amount of plus size on the outside, this is no tight end group disguised as a wide receiver core. The unit has plenty of athleticism and speed across the board, especially in Quincy Enunwa, Terrelle Pryor, and Robby Anderson.

    I was interested to find out how the size, height, and speed of the Jets wide receiver group compared to the rest of the NFL. I averaged the 40 yard dash time, height, and weight of the top four wide receivers listed on each team’s depth chart. Of course, 40 times lose a bit of value the further they drift into the past, but it is the best available way to measure overall speed, and when averaged out with other players the data should be relatively reliable in painting an accurate picture.

    Here are the results. The top four group of the Jets ranked 7th in 40 time and tops in both height and weight. All in all, that culminated in the foursome ranking at the top of the league in “speed score” - which adjusts wide receiver 40 time by height and weight.

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    I think it’s also worth noting that the gap in speed score between the Jets and the 2nd-ranked Chiefs is slightly larger than the gap between the 4th-ranked Broncos and 17th-ranked Lions.

    Speed and size are absolutely not the primary determining factor in how productive a wide receiver can or will be. Route running, hands, awareness, physicality, durability, and many other abilities and factors come into play.

    However, there’s no doubting that superior athleticism and size certainly raises the potential of a particular player or group. The Jets are the only team in the league with four wide receivers on their roster to post an 800-yard season - and all of those came in the last two years. This group has already seen flashes of very good production. When coupled with their physical uniqueness, there looks to be an exciting ceiling for them, which could very well be within reach this season if they could each stay healthy and continue their upward progression.
     
  2. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    The Steelers being near the bottom of this list shows that it’s really not a good indicator of NFL successes, as you eluded to.

    Our group is good and I like the variety of weapons for Sam. I’m just not a fan of using combine numbers as a basis for anything.
     
  3. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Yeah, who wouldn't want Brown or JuJu, stats can be made to say pretty much anything anybody wants sometimes.

    I mean look at the Jets will still unbeaten over the weekend :)
     
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    I appreciate your attempt at quantifying your belief (hope?) that the Jets receivers will be very good. We all hope for that. But speed and size - while these can't be taught as the old coaching saying goes - don't really predict success either. If you wanted use numbers to try and predict performance I would say that yards receiving and percentage of passes caught vs. thrown to. These will tell you how well a guy can get separation, and then hold onto the ball, which are probably the two most critical aspects to measure. Of course these are also based on past performance, and affected by the QB they worked with and the players around them, and other factors that might not apply in the present, so it's just a "best guess" sprinkled in with some "facts" to make it feel like it's "scientific". In the end, we \'re going to have to see if these guys can live up to their potential, of which they do have a lot of. I hope we're all pleasantly surprised.
     
  5. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    Also the narrative about having 4 WRs with 1000 yard potential is a bit misleading, because it’s never happened.

    They all did it on different teams.

    There have only been five teams with a TRIO of 1000 yard receivers in league history (the last being 10 years ago) and there has never been a quad of 1000 yard receivers on one team. There have only been 10 teams in league history with a trio of 900 yard receivers.

    Having a thousand yard receiver or 2 diminishes the chances anyone else has of doing it. Not enough balls to go around.

    I think we’re going to have a bunch of 600-700 yard receivers but not 4 guys with 900-1000 yards each.
     
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    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    I think the point the OP is making is that we arent that bad at WR as many, mostly pundits have concluded. Not sure why the Jets get a lot of hate at receiver, but I assume its because we've had historically bad offenses since 2011. I see this group as a bunch of decent WR2s that is average to slightly above average depending on the production of this unit with Darnold.

    While we are missing an OBJ or Antonio Brown on this roster, its more than sufficient enough to take us as far as we want to go. We have far more weak links currently that are likely going to hold this team back.
     
  7. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I don’t remember anyone saying we were going to have 4 1000 yard receivers. I think the claim was we have 4 guys each with 1000 yard potential.
     
  8. The Waterboy

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    Might I suggest cutting and pasting a excerpt from the article and adding a link. Cutting and pasting an entire article without even putting one word of your own or acknowledging the original writer can probably get TGG in trouble with some copyright issues. Just a thought.
     
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    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    Yup, someone currently on vacation predicted that, not in this thread.
     
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    Relax, TGG will make it through this...
     
  11. The Waterboy

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    I'm sure the site will but I was trying to help someone out that has not posted on here very much even if he has been a member a while. There were issues in the past with people that just cut and paste entire articles without acknowledging the author. Mods made a point at the time to inform everyone they should post a excerpt and a link.

    Besides the fact it is just a lazy post, the article was right on the side column the front page of the forum where anyone could read it, the OP didn't even add one word of his own thoughts so what exactly did he add to the forum?
     
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    If an article is put out on the internet you can copy and paste to your hearts content as long as you arent charging people to view the content. No one is getting into trouble

    Do you have permission to use A Sandlers image as your avatar? Do I have to sweat out a lawsuit by ELP over mine? Nope
     
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  14. GasedAndConfused

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    exactly. brown doens't have burner speed or size but he's just an excellent WR. ODB is a top 3 guy but short and has burner speed. There is more to being a good WR then size and speed
     
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    It’s OBJ. Odell Beckham Jr. not ODB Ole Dirty Bastard (rip)
    Thank you, that is all
     
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    Great article as long as you are taking it with a grain of salt and willing to parse through the information to draw your own conclusions.

    Obviously this isn't the end-all-be-all to WR success since Pittsburgh and Minnesota are in the bottom third and the argument can be made they're #1 & #2 best in the league. Then again you look at Kansas City that's ranked 2nd to us and looking forward I could see that as the best WR corp in all of football if things break right.
    The unmeasurable an most important factor in all this of course is skill. You see that most abundantly in JuJu who is awesome but combine freak he is not.

    The biggest takeaway is the Jets WRs are overlooked by everyone in the media, with a slight exception to Robby that they barely entertain. I think the 2 major players being Anderson and Q are extremely skilled and just getting better. Just behind Darnold I am the most excited about Quincy's return. I'm ready for his Anquan Boldin+ career to begin. People will know his name afyer this year!
     
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    The owner of this site derives income via ads, people come to this site for various reasons and click on those ads. I wasn't saying the feds were coming after anyone, merely that the mods have previously asked not to post entire articles. Nor to post articles without crediting the author.

    I never mentioned avatars, I commented on someone posting an entire article as if it was theirs. That you can't tell the difference between the two, that's on you.
     
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    LMAO i call him ODB (O'Dell Beckham) but either way everyone knows who is being talked about
     
  19. BudJet

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    I agree that the height, weight, speed, is not what makes a receiver great, but it's a great place to start. Think how great A. Brown would be if he had a little more height and 4.3 speed. Receivers like J. Jones, D. Hopkins, AJ Green, all have one or more of these measurables that they use to make them great. Maybe our receiving core is just a QB away from being real good.....they have the physical tools. (oh yeah The Jets are the only team in the league with four wide receivers on their roster to post an 800-yard season - and all of those came in the last two years.) They have a very diverse group of receivers...Anderson your deep threat, Quincy over the middle, Kearse the move the chain receiver, & Pryor the wild card with speed & size.
     
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  20. jerseyjay14

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    Underrated? maybe if you consider they are viewed as one of the 3 worst and maybe they are only the 5th worse. our WR and Skill player situation in general is depressingly dismal
     

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