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Antoni · Aug 16, 2016

DisgruntledLionFan said: ↑

It's not a witch hunt.

It's a Hail Mary.
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She fucked up royally and lied about(under oath) Benghazi and likely got dozens of CIA assets executed because of her private e-mail servers. And this hag is fit to be President? You gotta be kidding me. Of course the Republicans can't put up a decent candidate and give us the Russian lapdog Trump.

The Waterboy · Aug 19, 2016

Added another poll to the "Mock Presidential Election" threads to cover the top 4 candidates, if anyone is interested.
http://forums.theganggreen.com/thre...n-stein-vs-johnson-vs-clinton-vs-trump.87042/

NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 19, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 20, 2016

This is perjury, right? TGG lawyers commence!

NY Jets68 · Aug 20, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto said: ↑

This is perjury, right? TGG lawyers commence!

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Heh
Suspenseful, eerie, spooky music makes everything more real.

NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 20, 2016

these things get me every time

abyzmul · Aug 20, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto said: ↑

This is perjury, right? TGG lawyers commence!

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Bro, she's the lesser of two evils.

Greenday4537 · Aug 22, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto said: ↑

This is perjury, right? TGG lawyers commence!

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Perjury means lying under oath. Not knowing or being wrong isn't perjury.

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The Waterboy · Aug 22, 2016

Greenday4537 said: ↑

Perjury means lying under oath. Not knowing or being wrong isn't perjury.

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Well she was under oath and it was on her to know whether or not what she was sending was classified. I only watched 9 seconds of the video and I heard that, what else is needed?

NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 22, 2016

Greenday4537 said: ↑

Perjury means lying under oath. Not knowing or being wrong isn't perjury.

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So which of the lies in that video did she not know about? Was she unaware of what was considered classified material or what was marked classified while she was secretary of state? Seems like either a huge stretch or she was extremely unqualified.

Greenday4537 · Aug 22, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto said: ↑

So which of the lies in that video did she not know about? Was she unaware of what was considered classified material or what was marked classified while she was secretary of state? Seems like either a huge stretch or she was extremely unqualified.
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The latter seems perfectly reasonable. Politicians rarely seem to know how to properly handle classified information since they are as dumb as stumps.

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NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 22, 2016

Greenday4537 said: ↑

The latter seems perfectly reasonable. Politicians rarely seem to know how to properly handle classified information since they are as dumb as stumps.

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You're not going to convince me Hillary is dumb.

Greenday4537 · Aug 22, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto said: ↑

You're not going to convince me Hillary is dumb.
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She's smart when it comes to politics. But politicians just don't give a crap about classifications so they don't bother learning. That makes them dumb.

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abyzmul · Aug 23, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 24, 2016

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_CLINTON_FOUNDATION?SITE=AP

WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money - either personally or through companies or groups - to the Clinton Foundation. It's an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.

At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million.

Donors who were granted time with Clinton included an internationally known economist who asked for her help as the Bangladesh government pressured him to resign from a nonprofit bank he ran; a Wall Street executive who sought Clinton's help with a visa problem; and Estee Lauder executives who were listed as meeting with Clinton while her department worked with the firm's corporate charity to counter gender-based violence in South Africa.

The meetings between the Democratic presidential nominee and foundation donors do not appear to violate legal agreements Clinton and former president Bill Clinton signed before she joined the State Department in 2009. But the frequency of the overlaps shows the intermingling of access and donations, and fuels perceptions that giving the foundation money was a price of admission for face time with Clinton. Her calendars and emails released as recently as this week describe scores of contacts she and her top aides had with foundation donors.

The AP's findings represent the first systematic effort to calculate the scope of the intersecting interests of Clinton Foundation donors and people who met personally with Clinton or spoke to her by phone about their needs.

The 154 did not include U.S. federal employees or foreign government representatives. Clinton met with representatives of at least 16 foreign governments that donated as much as $170 million to the Clinton charity, but they were not included in AP's calculations because such meetings would presumably have been part of her diplomatic duties.

Clinton's campaign said the AP analysis was flawed because it did not include in its calculations meetings with foreign diplomats or U.S. government officials, and the meetings AP examined covered only the first half of Clinton's tenure as secretary of state.

"It is outrageous to misrepresent Secretary Clinton's basis for meeting with these individuals," spokesman Brian Fallon said. He called it "a distorted portrayal of how often she crossed paths with individuals connected to charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation."

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump fiercely criticized the links between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department, saying his general election opponent had delivered "lie after lie after lie."

"Hillary Clinton is totally unfit to hold public office," he said at a rally Tuesday night in Austin, Texas. "It is impossible to figure out where the Clinton Foundation ends and the State Department begins. It is now abundantly clear that the Clintons set up a business to profit from public office."

Last week, the Clinton Foundation moved to head off ethics concerns about future donations by announcing changes planned if Clinton is elected.
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joe · Aug 24, 2016

"Isn't she lovely..isn't she wonderful?.."

Hail to the cheese..

TNJet · Aug 25, 2016

NotSatoshiNakamoto said: ↑

You're not going to convince me Hillary is dumb.
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true, she is a calculating bitch who has people whacked just ask Vince Foster......

NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 26, 2016

This is the week that the steady drip, drip, drip of details about Hillary Clinton ’s server turned into a waterfall. This is the week that we finally learned why Mrs. Clinton used a private communications setup, and what it hid. This is the week, in short, that we found out that the infamous server was designed to hide that Mrs. Clinton for three years served as the U.S. Secretary of the Clinton Foundation.

In March this column argued that while Mrs. Clinton’s mishandling of classified information was important, it missed the bigger point. The Democratic nominee obviously didn’t set up her server with the express purpose of exposing national secrets—that was incidental. She set up the server to keep secret the details of the Clintons’ private life—a life built around an elaborate and sweeping money-raising and self-promoting entity known as the Clinton Foundation.

Had Secretary Clinton kept the foundation at arm’s length while in office—as obvious ethical standards would have dictated—there would never have been any need for a private server, or even private email. The vast majority of her electronic communications would have related to her job at the State Department, with maybe that occasional yoga schedule. And those Freedom of Information Act officers would have had little difficulty—when later going through a state.gov email—screening out the clearly “personal” before making her records public. This is how it works for everybody else.

Mrs. Clinton’s problem—as we now know from this week’s release of emails from Huma Abedin ’s private Clinton-server account—was that there was no divide between public and private. Mrs. Clinton’s State Department and her family foundation were one seamless entity—employing the same people, comparing schedules, mixing foundation donors with State supplicants. This is why she maintained a secret server, and why she deleted 15,000 emails that should have been turned over to the government.

Most of the focus on this week’s Abedin emails has centered on the disturbing examples of Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band negotiating State favors for foundation donors. But equally instructive in the 725 pages released by Judicial Watch is the frequency and banality of most of the email interaction. Mr. Band asks if Hillary’s doing this conference, or having that meeting, and when she’s going to Brazil. Ms. Abedin responds that she’s working on it, or will get this or that answer. These aren’t the emails of mere casual acquaintances; they don’t even bother with salutations or signoffs. These are the emails of two people engaged in the same purpose—serving the State-Clinton Foundation nexus.

The other undernoted but important revelation is that the media has been looking in the wrong place. The focus is on Mrs. Clinton’s missing emails, and no doubt those 15,000 FBI-recovered texts contain nuggets. Then again, Mrs. Clinton was a busy woman, and most of the details of her daily State/foundation life would have been handled by trusted aides. This is why they, too, had private email. Top marks to Judicial Watch for pursuing Ms. Abedin’s file from the start. A new urgency needs to go into seeing similar emails of former Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills.

Mostly, we learned this week that Mrs. Clinton’s foundation issue goes far beyond the “appearance” of a conflict of interest. This is straight-up pay to play. When Mr. Band sends an email demanding a Hillary meeting with the crown prince of Bahrain and notes that he’s a “good friend of ours,” what Mr. Band means is that the crown prince had contributed millions to a Clinton Global Initiative scholarship program, and therefore has bought face time. It doesn’t get more clear-cut, folks.

That’s highlighted by the Associated Press’s extraordinary finding this week that of the 154 outside people Mrs. Clinton met with in the first years of her tenure, more than half were Clinton Foundation donors. Clinton apologists, like Vox’s Matthew Yglesias, are claiming that statistic is overblown, because the 154 doesn’t include thousands of meetings held with foreign diplomats and U.S. officials.

Nice try. As the nation’s top diplomat, Mrs. Clinton was obliged to meet with diplomats and officials—not with others. Only a blessed few outsiders scored meetings with the harried secretary of state and, surprise, most of the blessed were Clinton Foundation donors.

Mrs. Clinton’s only whisper of grace is that it remains (as it always does in potential cases of corruption) hard to connect the dots. There are “quids” (foundation donations) and “quos” (Bahrain arms deals) all over the place, but no precise evidence of “pros.” Count on the Clinton menagerie to dwell in that sliver of a refuge.

But does it even matter? What we discovered this week is that one of the nation’s top officials created a private server that housed proof that she continued a secret, ongoing entwinement with her family foundation—despite ethics agreements—and that she destroyed public records. If that alone doesn’t disqualify her for the presidency, it’s hard to know what would.
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Cman68 · Aug 27, 2016

TNJet said: ↑

true, she is a calculating bitch who has people whacked just ask Vince Foster......
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Exactly the kind of person I want as President. Someone who would bring a gun to a knife fight and have a sniper on the roof accross the street. We're not electing the Pope nor are we canonizing a Saint.

NotSatoshiNakamoto · Aug 28, 2016

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