Chad's shoulder is troubling Jets Saturday, March 4, 2006 By RANDY LANGE STAFF WRITER http://www.northjersey.com/page.php...lRUV5eTY4OTAzNDQmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2 A break in the Chad Pennington talks Friday gives us a chance to negotiate the question of who will be the Jets' quarterback of the future. It could be Pennington. It could be a hold-the-fort veteran such as Kerry Collins, Jon Kitna or Patrick Ramsey. It could be one of the draft's big three: Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler or Vince Young. It could be Brady Quinn. You mean the Notre Dame QB who won't be available until the 2007 draft? Yeah, that Brady Quinn. More later. But this list should hint at the complexity of the Jets' quest as they try to hammer out that reworked Pennington contract with agent Tom Condon by Sunday, then set sail into the first unrestricted free agency signing period of the new regime of general manager Mike Tannenbaum and coach Eric Mangini. Everything begins with Pennington's right shoulder. The Jets are close to settling on a middle-ground package with Condon to keep their former No. 1 draft choice around, which indicates they think he'll at least be competitive for a spot on the roster. But they don't have all the information they need yet. Pennington won't start throwing for a few more weeks and some of those veteran QBs become free agents Monday at 12:01 a.m. He won't be cutting it loose in spring practices before they have to spend their top draft pick. The veterans come first, and here's the next problem. The Jets don't have the money to secure the biggest QB name, San Diego's Drew Brees, who seems ticketed for Miami. And they may find that the price tags of Cincinnati's Kitna and Arizona's Josh McCown too steep as well. Additionally, some vets don't want to come here. One reason is the unsettled protection. Said one agent: "The Jets are not attractive. They're cutting one offensive lineman after another." And there is a team being rebuilt. Said another agent: "I've talked to 20 different GMs and assistant GMs. Not one said, 'Hey, the Jets will do OK this year.' Privately they said, 'There's no way.' " It will take a grizzled vet such as Collins, who many believe will be released by Oakland and knows his way around New York, or Gus Frerotte, shopping for his seventh team in eight seasons once the Dolphins cut him, to compete with Pennington. Then comes the draft. Rumors abound that the Jets covet Cutler or that they'll trade with Houston to take Leinart No. 1. But many other needs and a likely season of strife ahead may force the Jets to bypass the draft's top QBs and go to camp with Pennington, Brooks Bollinger, an outside veteran and a mid- or low-round rookie.
The last line is the direction the Jets will go. Look for them to draft Croyle, Whitehurst or Basanez.
Croyle I could live with. I like Basanez, but don't know if he'll be a starter. Whitehurst will be carrying a clipboard in NFL Europe next year.
Dismantling the Oline Taking apart the Oline is frackin' stupid! It doesn't make any sense to have any QB other than Bollinger behind whatever "line" we have because at least he can run for his life! They should cut Pennington loose now. And we're not going to be able to sign a quality vet either. Have fun at 1-15 Mangini! Press conferences should be a hoot to listen to next season, you frackin' idiot. Theres not need to destroy the Oline when the cap may go up to $110 million.
Gee, I dunno Dave. Did you see the OLine last year? Pretty bismal stuff. I can't see how it can be much worse.
But thats because Mawae got hurt and Kendall was playing out of position. They never had a chance to get into synch with the new blocking scheme or the QB. This year could have been different with Penny behind center.
You make it seem as if these guys have no plan, the plan is to get as much out of cap hell as possible, suck for a year or 2 and build a team from scratch. When the team is built they will be ready to compete and coincidently will have alot of money to spend to bring in FA's that are not stop the leak guys but guys that will help us win.
Are you kidding me? Look how that one year turned out with Oakland with a great RB and a HOF WR. (granted the oline and injuries), STILL! He's old, beat up, and horrible. Kind of like Vinny...
and we're rebuilding so where's the harm in Collins taking the buttkickin while Cutler carries the clipboard and watches from a safe distance? Its not like this team is going to be competitive this year anyway Ced.. Think of Collins as a stunt double..
I'm sure Mangini doesn't agree. He thinks we can be competitive (might be a sunshiner, you never know, lol), so he's gonna give us the BEST CHANCE TO WIN. Signing Collins would be a Herm move. Kitna, Rivers, or Ramsey on the other hand, would give us a BETTER chance to win.
Sure, bring Collins here. He will be on IR by the second game and Brooks will be in. If they bring anyone here, they better be mobile. Kitna or Ramsey would have a better chance to suceed here and I am not a big Ramsey fan. Until our OL is functional, I would use Brooks out there, at least he will get thru the first 4 or 5 games.
Mangini can't publically agree for sure. However, we all know this IS a rebuilding year and not a retooling year. If it were the latter, I could agree with the best chance to win senario. However, right now Mangini and TBaum are probably thinking "get under the cap and younger than 30" in most positions. Ced, realistically, we're looking at a 2 year program to just get us back on the map, nevermind competitive. If we don't draft a QB in '06, we have to draft one in '07 since Chad, recovered or not, will be 31. In order to be in the Quinn sweepstakes, we can't be over 3 wins, 4 max. With our rebuilding the OLine, new offensive system, new/recovering QB, aging RB and so on, our immediate future looks pretty grim.
KITNA is a born- again LOSER! Bad decision maker who throws too may INTS! IMO BOLLY will beat him out for the #2 job behind CHAD@!
and was benched the very next year for a first year QB! And he stayed as #2 until that QB was injured. He came in and threw his trademark INTS and lost! In his comeback year , what was his won- loss record?
disagree. the o-line needs to get younger and bigger. getting rid of noodle arm now would be the way to go. drfating a top-talent qb to learn behind bolly/a vet fa is the way to go. but, make no mistake about it, this o-line can't run block or pass-protect. now is the right time to rebuild it.:up: