2015 NFL DRAFT DISCUSSIONS/ ROUND 2 & 3

Discussion in 'Draft' started by WW85, May 1, 2015.

  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    what can bowles do (with more talent then rex had to boot) that rex hasnt already done here.

    Rex has had us as the best, or at least a top 3 defense here. he got us to the AFC championship game twice on the back of our defense and the D was so good it was able to overcome some of the worst qb play in the league.

    bowles would need to have the #1 defense and maybe get to a superbowl to claim he has done more as a defensive genius then rex did here.
     
  2. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    there is no way mauldin is a "flier who will compete for a spot on the roster"

    he is a guy todd bowles and mac fell in love with and will likely end up starting from day 1.
     
  3. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    hard to make the "big stop" when you have to make it 7 or 8 times cause your offense is terrible.

    rex's defense kept us in games we should have lost by 21+ we had the worst qb play in football and turnoved it over at an alarming rate. so many tunrovers for tuchdowns allowed, so many tunrovers in our own end.
     
  4. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,202
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    It has nothing to do with ranking the defense, that's all Rex cared about .
    What good is having a top 3 or 5 defense if we're not in the playoffs?

    Imo the league has caught up with Rex and I feel that we have an opportunity under Bowles to see what he can do with guys, Coples always comes to mind, who really haven't reached their potential under Rex or even shown that much growth.

    I also think Davis hasn't flourished the way he should .
    I'm just excited to see what the team will look like under the new regime .


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    Walt White likes this.
  5. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,202
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    The offense was terrible because Rex sucked as a HC and never bothered to make any improvements on that side of the ball.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  6. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    i think rounds 4/5 goes Tackle/Gaurd or Gaurd/Tackle

    i dont think we will take a running back today. i dont think its a need, i dont think its a posiiton that is valued. i think they are happy with our group and are fine suplimenting that group in UDFA. and they are smart to do so
     
  7. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    I am secretly on the Petty bandwagon.

    _
     
    BacktoQueens and FlaJet like this.
  8. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    rex got us to 2 AFC championship games. we played in 6 playoff games under rex. not sure how thats "not being in the playoffs"

    couples played what, 2 years under rex? what about all the guys who shined under rex? did richardson reach his potential? do wilkerson show growth?

    Davis became our best LB while being a 3rd round selection was it? not sure he hasnt flourished.

    rex made us an elite defense. unless bowles gets us to a SB on the back of our defense, he really cant make rex "look bad"

    rex didint get "figure out" either. there is just only so far you are going to go with sanchez/smith and no skill players
     
  9. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    what improvements are you going to make when you have the worst QB in football. they did what they could, try and tell sanchez to never throw the ball. that doesnt really work.

    rex the coach was great. rex the guy with input on personel moves sucked, i agree
     
  10. BigSnacks54

    BigSnacks54 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2014
    Messages:
    1,762
    Likes Received:
    596
    Let him be Rex's problem, he's not going to be worth the headaches. I made this comparison in February, IMO, Petty reminds me of Geno Smith, with worse mobility. I really think there's too much talent left on the board to waste a pick on Hundley or Petty. Unless Geno magically improves (I doubt this happen), we're most likely going to have to trade up for a QB next season .
     
  11. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,202
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    Rex inherited a pretty good team from Mangini, it wasn't all his doing getting us to the playoffs his 1st 2 seasons.
    The more he was allowed to put his mark on this team and thus, ignore the offense, the worse we got .

    This is just my opinion


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  12. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196

    Baaah. I'm hoping he becomes a poor man's Brett Favre.

    _
     
  13. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    what exactly did mangni do with that team?

    rex got us to back to back championship games, and beat tom brady AND peyton manning on the road in the playoffs. he had us as a top 3 defense.
     
    BacktoQueens likes this.
  14. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    WOW--Goodell just took a great big shit on NYC!

    Chicago made the draft Bigger and Better than ever before?

    Holy fuck.

    _
     
  15. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,202
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    Mangini is a good coach, it's his personality that did him in.
    I think if he could change that aspect of his personality he'd be a pretty good coach of given another shot .


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  16. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    9,095
    Likes Received:
    6,411
    Mangini did nothing with a HOF QB at the helm.
    Rex took that team, improved it, and played in 6 playoff games with Sanchez at the helm.

    yet you are here pumping up Mangini while taking shots at Rex.
    it's unbelievable.

    hopefully Bowles gets a couple years before the unnecessary bashing sets in..
     
  17. FlaJet

    FlaJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2003
    Messages:
    2,014
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    Wew we finally picked a QB.
     
  18. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,202
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    I'm not pumping up anyone I'm just giving my own opinion .
    You're entitled to yours .

    Rex sucked as a HC , that's how I feel.
    Every year the offense lost good players and replaced them with mediocre ones while we drafted Kyle Wilson & Milliner and other crap players .
    I'm tired of talking about Rex's 1st 2 years success , this is a NOW league .


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  19. FlaJet

    FlaJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2003
    Messages:
    2,014
    Likes Received:
    1,020
    From your lips to God's ears.....
     
  20. BigSnacks54

    BigSnacks54 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2014
    Messages:
    1,762
    Likes Received:
    596
    I can't get on board with this pick..
     

Share This Page