2010-2011 New York Yankees Offseason Thread

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  1. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    You know, I watched the replay of yesterday's game.

    The Phillies were making solid contact....

    Don't be deceived by the box score.


    But I do believe Burnett will have a dramatically different season than last.
     
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  3. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    The Yanks have some guys who may be valuable.

    Ramiro Pena will be available if they want to go with Nunez or visa versa
     
  4. Cappy

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    Maybe they can trade Austin Romine for Felix Hernandez, too. :smile:

    Ramiro Pena is a useful utility infielder. He's not fetching you much in a trade. Nunez might be a slightly different story, but he's not proven, either. Neither of them are likely to land Myers on their own, or even as a centerpiece. They'd be throw-ins.
     
  5. GQMartin

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    Yeah Cappy...


    Also, for the Greinke lovers...he broke his rib playing basketball, may miss start of season.
     
  6. Cappy

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    Burnett continues to pitch pretty well.

    I'm ready for the season to start.
     
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    I kinda hope that circumstances allow for Banuelos to spend the year in the minors. He doesn't need to be rushed, and you just know that once he's up here and the hype machine gets cranked up, there's no turning back.
     
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    Nova with 6 perfect innings today
     
  10. Jake

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    Here's the numbers so far:

    Garcia: (3 GS) 7.2 IP 4ER 8H 2BB 6K
    Nova: (4 GS) 14 IP 2ER 8H 2BB 7K
    Colon: (3 GS) 9 IP 3ER 8H 1BB 12K
    Mitre: (3G, 1GS) 5 IP 0ER 5H 0BB 4K
     
  11. Jake

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    I think it's safe to say Nova and Colon will be #4 and #5. Garcia and Mitre have made the decision easier the last few games.
     
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    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2011/03/23/wednesday-notes-hughes-slides-by-with-his-cutter/

     
  13. Cappy

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    I think I'd still rather have Garcia at this point over Colon. I just don't trust Colon to give the Yanks more than a month or two, tops. Then again, at that point, maybe they'd be willing to call up one of the kids.
     
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    @SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
    #yankees are close to signing kevin millwood to an incentive-laden minor-league deal
     
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    I don't mind Colon. Sure he didn't pitch in the bigs last year, but at least he hits 90 MPH on the gun. Keep him in the rotation until Phelps or Noesi are ready.
     
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    You saw what Kyle Farnsworth did with his 100mph fastball.

    You saw what guys like Pettitte and Mussina did with far less.

    I'm less impressed with velocity and more impressed with the ability to get guys out. So far, Colon has shown that he can still do that. I just don't trust him to stay healthy.
     
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    Mitre traded to Milwuakee for OF Chris Dickerson, who will likely be sent to AAA.

    I don't see what more Colon could have done this spring.... He's out-pitched Garcia imo. But as Cap said, we must prepare as if he'll break down because he more than likely will.
     
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    And the Millwood deal is done, too. I actually like that deal. He doesn't need to be anything special on the Yanks, and he does nothing if not eat innings. You can't ask for more than that out of a potential #5 starter.
     
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    Pettitte was a lefty and Mussina had a killer knuclecurve. Garcia's secondary pitch is like 82 MPH, barely any difference in speed. We don't need a crappy fly ball pitcher in Yankee Stadium.
     
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    Right, but that kind of misses my point, which was that velocity alone is not what makes a pitcher good or crappy (you pointed to some of those other reasons in your post)... but velocity was the only reason you gave in the previous post. "At least Colon throws 90 mph." There are plenty of reasons why a person might prefer Colon over Garcia... but I happen to think that throwing 90 mph isn't really a great one. (You'll notice I said that Colon has in fact shown that he can still get guys out, even if it is just spring training.)

    As for "crappy fly ball pitchers"... well... for his career, Colon's G/F ratio is 1.03. Since 2003, it's 0.89. (Garcia is 1.02 for the same time period, with a 1.08 ratio for his career.)

    Colon's ERA+ over that time period was 102. Garcia's was 105. So they were both kinda equally average. And Colon's been much worse in recent years... if crappy fly ball pitchers ain't your thing, Colon's probably not your guy.

    The bottom line is this, though... neither is very likely to be a great pitcher for the Yankees this year. League average (or slightly better) is probably the best you can hope for from either.
     

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