1 Scouts view of this class of QB's...

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  1. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    I still find it hard to believe, that with so much money at stake, teams don't take the time to interview family and friends of the draftee, people who know them intimately. That's where the REAL information lies.
     
  2. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Those same people have more incentive to protect their guy then they do to provide potentially incriminating information. If someone actually did give something up along those lines, it would be a hair raising red flag, but even still you'd need to hear it from multiple sources before you could trust the legitimacy of the claim.

    If everyone you know is telling the scout that you are peaches and cream, there isn't a whole lot to be gleaned from that besides the fact that your own family and friends don't despise you.
     
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  3. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe there's gotta be a way to discreetly gather info without tipping your hand. Moreover, in today's electronic society there's tons of info about each of us that can show our patterns and behavior. If I were an NFL team I would be buying that info.
     
  4. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    The flip side of the proliferation of information is that it can cause paralysis through analysis. Sometimes these things can be over scrutinized.
     
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  5. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    True, but analyzing the RIGHT data is valuable.
     
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  6. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Absolutely. I just think in this case that information is hard to come by, and the fact that teams continue to whiff tells that story.
     
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    I expect the Browns have pondered signing the first guy early just to get around the possibility of the guy they want trying to engineer a trade after he is picked like Elway and Eli did. If they like Rosen they almost have to go that route to avoid risk on draft day.

    The counter argument to the proposition is that the NFL would absolutely freak out at having anything upset the draft day juice that is running when Goodell steps up to the podium for the first time.
     
  8. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Herbie Kirkstreit agrees with him. Prolly been mentioned already but hey just sayin' :)

    "I know a lot of people are kind of enamored with Josh Allen and his arm strength. We've heard a lot about Sam Darnold. I start with Baker Mayfield as my top guy. It has everything to do with production. It has everything to do with accuracy and decision making. People get caught up in how athletic a guy is, how big of an arm a guy has. When I watch quarterbacks, it's decision making, and it's accuracy.


    "Baker Mayfield, to me, is off the charts in all those areas. If he were 6-3, people would be marveling at this kid. But he's not 6-3, so of course, there are some concerns. He played behind as big of an offensive line as you'll ever see in the NFL -- and had no issues whatsoever with sitting in the pocket and making throws, and finding those passing lanes, and evaluating defenses, both to the inside and the outside. The accuracy is incredible. Reminds me of a young Drew Brees coming out. He would be at the top for me."

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2018/04/nfl_draft_2018_baker_mayfield_is_top_qb_plays_like.html
     
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  9. LAJet

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    Nothing will give me more satisfaction that for the Browns to steal Goodell's thunder with the first pick.
     
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  10. LAJet

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    What does it all mean to us? If Rosen and Baker go one-two or vice versa.....are we screwed for a QB ? Or we might end up striking unplanned gold by default?
     
  11. SoylentGreen

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    Allen is a lot more polished with better mechanics.

    A better comp is Josh Freeman - same frame, athleticism, crazy big arm, inability to pick up a blitz/read defenses, both feel pressure (real and perceived)and bail out way too much, erratic accuracy... yeah pretty similar, Freeman really never developed. Allen might be different though...
     
  12. Footballgod214

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    Just pray the Browns don't see this!
     
  13. boozer32

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    I hope they take it to the wire. The whole lead up and the 15 minutes on the clock. Drag it out because once the Jets pick they can take the next day off.
     
  14. Jedi mind tricks

    Jedi mind tricks Well-Known Member

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    I don't want Mayfield... Think we could have stayed at 6 and got either Mayfield or Rosen
     
  15. Rockinz

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    This guy is just trying to bump up his stock by putting out pure trash. Having mayfield as his top QB prospect is comical.
     
  16. LeonNYJ

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    You've got it a little off. I'd be interviewing friends and family to understand what kind of company the draftee keeps. The amount of influence friends and family have over these guys is huge. If the guy has friends who are a bunch of weasels, then you should worry.
     
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  17. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    It means we swagger up to the podium, happily select Sam Darnold, and look forward to him starting in the 2019 season after the Teddy Bridgwater experiment has ended and he's had a chance to work through some of his mechanical issues.
     
  18. SecretConnection

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    Rosens father paid lots of money to have this published.
     
  19. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Unless he's not healthy, the Teddy Bridgewater "experiment" might not end until he retires, as no matter who we draft, he might not beat Teddy out. The only way he may get unseated as the starter is if the starting job is just handed to the rookie.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

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    We could be fine with Darnold and maybe even Allen, but I wouldn't hold my breath on either. I think if that happens, I'll root for Teddy to be healthy, win the job, and be our QB for the next 10 years.
     
    #60 NCJetsfan, Apr 20, 2018
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