What Should the Jets do With Dustin Keller?

wildaces · 02-16-2013, 10:02 PM

As you should be aware, Keller is an unrestricted free agent this year. The Jets have 3 choices:

Let Keller walk
Re-sign Keller
FranchiseTransition Keller

If we let Keller walk, we lose all value, and we have to replace him. Yet another starter is gone. However, we don't have to waste any cap space, and will be able to sign another TE.

If we resign Keller, we will probably looking at a minimum of $3 Million per year. He has been our top pass receiver in recent years, but moving to a WCO, we can find an alternative, IMO.

If we Franchise Keller, it will cost us $6Million. However, we will have the right to trade him, or if someone wants him bad enough, will be compensated with draft picks.

Personally, I feel we can draft, or sign a suitable replacement. I believe the most conservative thing to do is let him walk, but the feel franchise tagging him gives us the most value.

If we were to Franchise him, what do you think we could get for him?

MikeSLTJ23 · 02-16-2013, 10:34 PM

Keller sucks and we shouldn't want him next year. He can't block and has stone hands for at least 10 games a season. He's basically a just a big, lumbering WR.

The 1985er · 02-16-2013, 10:39 PM

He's a good catching TE, his blocking can't be THAT bad considering he was the starting TE during the years when we had a top 5 rushing attack.

Mangolden Showers · 02-16-2013, 11:02 PM

Again, like with all these hypotheticals, it's a "if the price is right" situation. Lets call it what it is tho, Keller thinks he's pro bowl material. There's equal or better replacements in FA and this year's draft.

NFL · 02-16-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSLTJ23

Keller sucks and we shouldn't want him next year. He can't block and has stone hands for at least 10 games a season. He's basically a just a big, lumbering WR.

It gets so annoying reading shit like this..

Before he was injured for the whole season, and was cheap EVERYONE loved Keller. When Mark Sanchez was struggling at the beginning of the season EVERYBODY wanted Dustin back because EVERYBODY knew that he was the mist consistent and biggest threat of a target that we had.

Now he sat out most the year because of some bum injuries and needing a new contract, and now all you hear is how bad he sucks. If ya simply don't want the Jets to pay him, say that, don't say he sucks because with a functional offense he will be a top TE.

wildaces · 02-17-2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NFL

It gets so annoying reading shit like this..

Before he was injured for the whole season, and was cheap EVERYONE loved Keller. When Mark Sanchez was struggling at the beginning of the season EVERYBODY wanted Dustin back because EVERYBODY knew that he was the mist consistent and biggest threat of a target that we had.

Now he sat out most the year because of some bum injuries and needing a new contract, and now all you hear is how bad he sucks. If ya simply don't want the Jets to pay him, say that, don't say he sucks because with a functional offense he will be a top TE.

Keller lead the team in almost every season he has been a Jet, so he can't be bad. The question is what do you do with him.

I say you tag him, and trade him, but that is just me.

If you do tag him, and trade him, what is he worth?

xmscott · 02-17-2013, 12:31 AM

He missed practically the entire year.

Let him walk. Need 2 TE's and fast.

NFL · 02-17-2013, 12:42 AM

@wildaces, honestly idk what teams would give up for him. I can see a team like Denver or even the Falcons trading a mid round (3rd) for him. One things for sure, if he hits Free Agency, he won't be available too long.

wildaces · 02-17-2013, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NFL

@wildaces, honestly idk what teams would give up for him. I can see a team like Denver or even the Falcons trading a mid round (3rd) for him. One things for sure, if he hits Free Agency, he won't be available too long.

A 3rd is what I was thinking. Best player (TE) available philosophy. He would be scary in Atlanta.

Will-I-Am-Not · 02-17-2013, 06:08 AM

I want no part of Keller. He's mediocre at best; undersized,
injury prone, and doesn't always play with intensity.
I'd much rather draft a tight end with traditional size, who is also a better blocker.

TNJet · 02-17-2013, 06:39 AM

He doesn't suck nor is he exceptional. He is mediocre. Let him walk.

stevepokal · 02-17-2013, 07:23 AM

depends on what mornhinweg wants out of a tight end

Murrell2878 · 02-17-2013, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stevepokal

depends on what mornhinweg wants out of a tight end

Look at what he's done with Brent Celek. He could definitely use Keller.

flajetfan · 02-17-2013, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mangolden Showers

Again, like with all these hypotheticals, it's a "if the price is right" situation. Lets call it what it is tho, Keller thinks he's pro bowl material. There's equal or better replacements in FA and this year's draft.

does he? i haven't seen anything to suggest he was looking for top dollar for his position. did i miss something?

Br4dw4y5ux · 02-17-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stevepokal

depends on what mornhinweg wants out of a tight end

I think this is what it comes down to.

Keller is not a #1 TE. He's a tweener, similar to Aaron Hernandez. If the Jets were planning to run two TE's with a big blocker and then a smaller guy on the weakside who was more of a receiver he might be a keeper. I don't think the WCO features that look very much.

MurrellMartin · 02-17-2013, 08:17 AM

Let him walk. It's time to move on from this inconsistent project.

RuJFan · 02-17-2013, 08:39 AM

What's stopping Jets from signing him for about 3 and then trading?
If OP's preference is ultimately to trade, wouldn't it be easier to do after signing for 3 than after franchising for 6?

MikeSLTJ23 · 02-17-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NFL

It gets so annoying reading shit like this..

Before he was injured for the whole season, and was cheap EVERYONE loved Keller. When Mark Sanchez was struggling at the beginning of the season EVERYBODY wanted Dustin back because EVERYBODY knew that he was the mist consistent and biggest threat of a target that we had.

Now he sat out most the year because of some bum injuries and needing a new contract, and now all you hear is how bad he sucks. If ya simply don't want the Jets to pay him, say that, don't say he sucks because with a functional offense he will be a top TE.

Not everyone. I've never once considered Dustin Keller even above average. Don't generalize. I have always thought the Sanchez-Keller connection was overrated, because, frankly, it sucks tremendously. And always has. Look at his game logs over his career. He has ALWAYS disappeared for significant stretches. Because he's not any good. He can't block. He doesn't have good hands. I have never understood what anyone has seen in him. He's always been a VERY poor version of Dallas Clark.

MikeSLTJ23 · 02-17-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TNJet

He doesn't suck nor is he exceptional. He is mediocre. Let him walk.

I should correct my statement. He sucks for where he was drafted. I agree. He's mediocre. And being the "Jets best threat" doesn't make him good. Just means our offense blows. The day that this team realizes that Sanchez, Greene, Keller, Holmes are all liabilities and have never been strengths is the day they head in the right direction. Just my opinion. It's not being a darksider, just not happy with the players this team has entrusted to be the offense.

MikeSLTJ23 · 02-17-2013, 08:51 AM

I'll further prove my point. I have no stats to support that he's a bad blocking TE, but that shouldn't even need an argument.

Regular season stats:

2012 stats = 8 games, 3.5 rcpt/game, 40 yds/game, 2 TD
2011 stats = 16 games, 4 rcpt/game, 51 yds/game, 5 TDs
2010 stats = 16 games, 3.4 rcpt/game, 43 yds/game, 5 TDs
2009 stats = 16 games, 2.8 rcpt/game, 33 yds/game, 2 TDs
2008 stats = 16 games, 3 rcpt/game, 33 yds/game, 3 TDs

As you can see, I'm not worried about his injury history, because he really doesn't have one. I see consistency, though. I see a pretty awful pass-catching TE here. A lot of it is Sanchez, sure. A lot of it is also Keller. If this is our BEST receiver, that's a major issue. Show me numbers that support he could even be considered better than an average TE.

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NFL Totally Addicted Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,106 vCash: 400	@wildaces, honestly idk what teams would give up for him. I can see a team like Denver or even the Falcons trading a mid round (3rd) for him. One things for sure, if he hits Free Agency, he won't be available too long. Last edited by NFL; 02-17-2013 at 12:51 AM.

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TNJet Totally Addicted Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,060 vCash: 50	He doesn't suck nor is he exceptional. He is mediocre. Let him walk. __________________ So long sanchez, Hello Geno.

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RuJFan TheGangGreen.com Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 687 vCash: 2262	What's stopping Jets from signing him for about 3 and then trading? If OP's preference is ultimately to trade, wouldn't it be easier to do after signing for 3 than after franchising for 6? __________________ D.R.? TRADE THIS BEAST!!!

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02-16-2013, 10:02 PM	#1
wildaces Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,527 vCash: 9819	What Should the Jets do With Dustin Keller? As you should be aware, Keller is an unrestricted free agent this year. The Jets have 3 choices: Let Keller walk Re-sign Keller FranchiseTransition Keller If we let Keller walk, we lose all value, and we have to replace him. Yet another starter is gone. However, we don't have to waste any cap space, and will be able to sign another TE. If we resign Keller, we will probably looking at a minimum of $3 Million per year. He has been our top pass receiver in recent years, but moving to a WCO, we can find an alternative, IMO. If we Franchise Keller, it will cost us $6Million. However, we will have the right to trade him, or if someone wants him bad enough, will be compensated with draft picks. Personally, I feel we can draft, or sign a suitable replacement. I believe the most conservative thing to do is let him walk, but the feel franchise tagging him gives us the most value. If we were to Franchise him, what do you think we could get for him? Last edited by wildaces; 02-16-2013 at 10:08 PM.

02-16-2013, 10:34 PM	#2
MikeSLTJ23 Totally Addicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bayville, NJ Posts: 2,520 vCash: 25	Keller sucks and we shouldn't want him next year. He can't block and has stone hands for at least 10 games a season. He's basically a just a big, lumbering WR.

02-16-2013, 10:39 PM	#3
The 1985er Totally Addicted Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,384 vCash: 500	He's a good catching TE, his blocking can't be THAT bad considering he was the starting TE during the years when we had a top 5 rushing attack.

02-16-2013, 11:02 PM	#4
Mangolden Showers TheGangGreen.com Regular Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 391 vCash: 500	Again, like with all these hypotheticals, it's a "if the price is right" situation. Lets call it what it is tho, Keller thinks he's pro bowl material. There's equal or better replacements in FA and this year's draft.

02-17-2013, 12:31 AM	#7
xmscott Totally Addicted Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,253 vCash: 25	He missed practically the entire year. Let him walk. Need 2 TE's and fast.

02-17-2013, 06:08 AM	#10
Will-I-Am-Not TheGangGreen.com Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 854 vCash: 500	I want no part of Keller. He's mediocre at best; undersized, injury prone, and doesn't always play with intensity. I'd much rather draft a tight end with traditional size, who is also a better blocker.

02-17-2013, 07:23 AM	#12
stevepokal Totally Addicted Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,312 vCash: 25	depends on what mornhinweg wants out of a tight end

02-17-2013, 08:17 AM	#16
MurrellMartin Totally Addicted Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,466 vCash: 25	Let him walk. It's time to move on from this inconsistent project.

02-17-2013, 08:51 AM	#20
MikeSLTJ23 Totally Addicted Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bayville, NJ Posts: 2,520 vCash: 25	I'll further prove my point. I have no stats to support that he's a bad blocking TE, but that shouldn't even need an argument. Regular season stats: 2012 stats = 8 games, 3.5 rcpt/game, 40 yds/game, 2 TD 2011 stats = 16 games, 4 rcpt/game, 51 yds/game, 5 TDs 2010 stats = 16 games, 3.4 rcpt/game, 43 yds/game, 5 TDs 2009 stats = 16 games, 2.8 rcpt/game, 33 yds/game, 2 TDs 2008 stats = 16 games, 3 rcpt/game, 33 yds/game, 3 TDs As you can see, I'm not worried about his injury history, because he really doesn't have one. I see consistency, though. I see a pretty awful pass-catching TE here. A lot of it is Sanchez, sure. A lot of it is also Keller. If this is our BEST receiver, that's a major issue. Show me numbers that support he could even be considered better than an average TE.