[Demosthenes9]

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Tim Tebow: 'You work your whole life to build a reputation. Then people try to bring you down.'

BY Manish Mehta

Tim Tebow took umbrage to the perception that he was insubordinate last week by telling Rex Ryan that he didn’t want to play in any Wildcat packages anymore. Tebow admitted that he expressed his frustration at constantly being asked to run up the middle in the Wildcat and not having an opportunity to play “regular quarterback.”

“I never said, ‘Hey, I don’t want to do anything. I won’t do anything,‘” Tebow said on Wednesday. “That wasn’t the talk at all. He knows that. And everybody on this team knows that I would never not to do something if I was asked. That’s what’s disappointing. People saying,‘Oh, you quit. Or you didn’t do this.’ That was not it at all. It was just me asking to get an opportunity to play the position I love, which is quarterback. It wasn’t me asking out of anything.”

Tebow admitted that he wishes he were “more clear” during a meeting with Ryan last Tuesday and that Ryan may have misinterpreted his message. By last Thursday’s practice, Tebow said that he realized that his role would likely be reduced after Jeremy Kerley took the bulk of Wildcat snaps, which prompted a second meeting last Friday.

“I was definitely disappointed and frustrated and I let him know that,” Tebow said. “Just asked for an opportunity to play quarterback. (On Friday, I told him that), I would do anything for this team like I have all year from punt to hands team to catching passes… whatever I could do. He appreciated that. He understood. We got a great relationship still.”

“When people talk about how you play football and how much, that’s one thing,“Tebow said. “That really doesn’t bother me. I think the only thing that’s been disappointing these last few days and frustrating is people saying, ‘Oh you quit on your team or you’re not a good teammate.’”

“For people to not know the situation and then start to bash your character and then say you’re a phony or you’re a fake or you’re a hypocrite, I think that’s what’s disappointing and that’s what’s frustrating,“ he added. “Your character is who you are as a man and that’s a lot more important… I take that way more serious than I’ll ever take a football game.”

Tebow admitted that the backlash over the past several days did affect his holiday. (ESPN commentator Merrill Hoge was particularly hard on Tebow).

“You work your whole life to build a reputation,“ Tebow said. “Then people try to bring you down when they don’t understand even what happened. It’s disappointing. You just want to express your side of the story … Not just that. Your character and who you are… You want people to look at what really happened, not what one person said.”

No surprise on where I stand with this one

[CowboysFan]

Man I can not wait until Sunday has come and gone.

[Demosthenes9]

Originally Posted by CowboysFan

Man I can not wait until Sunday has come and gone.

Meh, mixed blessings as my football season will be over, and that sucks.

[BeastBeach]

Why does he care what the media/fans looking for reason to shit on him think?

Your reputation is not held by those people. It is with the people that actually do know him. They are the only ones that matter.

As much as I make fun of him on here at the end of the day my opinion is just that, an opinion by somebody who doesn't matter.

[Demosthenes9]

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

Why does he care what the media/fans looking for reason to shit on him think?

Your reputation is not held by those people. It is with the people that actually do know him. They are the only ones that matter.

As much as I make fun of him on here at the end of the day my opinion is just that, an opinion by somebody who doesn't matter.

If this was the old days where players were with one team for their entire career, your point might be valid.

But in today's world, your reputation outside of your team is just as important as your reputation within it.

Additionally, if you view yourself as a role model, it matters as well.

Additionally, not sure that you are compartmentalizing things here the way Tebow correctly did. He's separating his "reputation" as a football player and his "reputation" with regards to character. He doesn't care if people think that he sucks as a QB. He does care that some people have questioned his character.

[_Jet_]

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

Why does he care what the media/fans looking for reason to shit on him think?

Your reputation is not held by those people. It is with the people that actually do know him. They are the only ones that matter.

As much as I make fun of him on here at the end of the day my opinion is just that, an opinion by somebody who doesn't matter.

WTH are you talking about? What do you want him to do? Keep silent and just suck whatever is dumped on him?

[evojoe67]

I've never been a fan of Tebow as a QB but I really am appalled at what this organization has done to him.
The guy is a class act.

[DbaJets]

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

Why does he care what the media/fans looking for reason to shit on him think?

Your reputation is not held by those people. It is with the people that actually do know him. They are the only ones that matter.

As much as I make fun of him on here at the end of the day my opinion is just that, an opinion by somebody who doesn't matter.

I definitely see your point, but in his position I'd be pretty bummed too. Especially given the fact that he is trying to market himself to a new team as a starting QB.

[_Jet_]

I listened to a radio program. The reporter stretched it even further. He said Tebow was asked to play wildcat during the game, but he said no and refused to get on the field.
If Tebow doesn't stand up for himself and speak out, he will be permanently labeled by this BS.

[Bill Belichdouche]

I wonder if tebow has ever dropped an F bomb

[Backup QB]

Rex Ryan should have fixed all of this.

[Backup QB]

Originally Posted by Bill Belichdouche

I wonder if tebow has ever dropped an F bomb

I heard him say "shoot" during a mic'd up session after an interception. I was SHOCKED.

[_Jet_]

The real problem is: who fed those BS to the media?

[CowboysFan]

Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Meh, mixed blessings as my football season will be over, and that sucks.

Hopefully mine will not . In case Cowboys get lucky, join the cowboys forum, we welcome new fans and as I stated publicly before you are one of the most knowledgeable football fans I have spoken to .

[BeastBeach]

Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

If this was the old days where players were with one team for their entire career, your point might be valid.

But in today's world, your reputation outside of your team is just as important as your reputation within it.

Additionally, if you view yourself as a role model, it matters as well.

Additionally, not sure that you are compartmentalizing things here the way Tebow correctly did. He's separating his "reputation" as a football player and his "reputation" with regards to character. He doesn't care if people think that he sucks as a QB. He does care that some people have questioned his character.

But those people on other teams aren't just going to buy what the media shovels out. They understand the games the media plays. They will call Rex and Tebow if they want the truth.

As for being a role model, thats a genuine concern I guess. I think it is silly, not that what I think matters though. But I think anybody viewing him as a role model, again, would take his words and actions from the past over people like Merrill Hoge's.

Originally Posted by _Jet_

WTH are you talking about? What do you want him to do? Keep silent and just suck whatever is dumped on him?

I don't care what he does I just think he is sort of stooping to respond to people who aren't in positions to affect him.

Originally Posted by DbaJets

I definitely see your point, but in his position I'd be pretty bummed too. Especially given the fact that he is trying to market himself to a new team as a starting QB.

I'd be bummed too. Pissed off. I mean that is just a reaction. I just don't feel he needed to act like this is so damaging to his reputation when somebody is just trying to sell newspapers or get you to click a link.

[BeastBeach]

Originally Posted by Backup QB

I heard him say "shoot" during a mic'd up session after an interception. I was SHOCKED.

One of the Phins beat reporters, Omar Kelly, claims that Tebow curses and drinks but he does so in private and doesn't make a show out of it. I don't know if there is any truth to that or not.

[Demosthenes9]

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

But those people on other teams aren't just going to buy what the media shovels out. They understand the games the media plays. They will call Rex and Tebow if they want the truth.

As for being a role model, thats a genuine concern I guess. I think it is silly, not that what I think matters though. But I think anybody viewing him as a role model, again, would take his words and actions from the past over people like Merrill Hoge's.

Unfortunately, you are wrong about people not buying what the media shovels out. Some won't, but many others will. Hell, just look through the threads on the topic here. How many posters here have called him a phony ? Or a hypocrite ?

I don't care what he does I just think he is sort of stooping to respond to people who aren't in positions to affect him.

It's a miscalculation to say that those people aren't in positions to affect him. If you was just you sitting at home, that would be different. He's talking about people in the media who ARE in a position to affect him based on the size of the respective audiences that they have.

[Backup QB]

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

But those people on other teams aren't just going to buy what the media shovels out. They understand the games the media plays. They will call Rex and Tebow if they want the truth.

As for being a role model, thats a genuine concern I guess. I think it is silly, not that what I think matters though. But I think anybody viewing him as a role model, again, would take his words and actions from the past over people like Merrill Hoge's.



I don't care what he does I just think he is sort of stooping to respond to people who aren't in positions to affect him.



I'd be bummed too. Pissed off. I mean that is just a reaction. I just don't feel he needed to act like this is so damaging to his reputation when somebody is just trying to sell newspapers or get you to click a link.

Sometimes, I wonder if you really believe what you are saying.

Tebow=professional athlete/public figure/celebrity
You=some guy on the internet

There is a difference between how he has to protect his reputation and you having the option of not caring what people think.

[JFjets]

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

One of the Phins beat reporters, Omar Kelly, claims that Tebow curses and drinks but he does so in private and doesn't make a show out of it. I don't know if there is any truth to that or not.

Rick Reilly hired a lip reader to watch one of the Denver games last year and see if Tebow ever cursed. He didn't.

Tebow has been mic'd up now for several games. There were multiple game "heat of the moment" type opportunities for him to curse, if he did that sort of thing. A lot of people would curse if they got tackled by Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher. He didn't.

[BeastBeach]

Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Unfortunately, you are wrong about people not buying what the media shovels out. Some won't, but many others will. Hell, just look through the threads on the topic here. How many posters here have called him a phony ? Or a hypocrite ?


It's a miscalculation to say that those people aren't in positions to affect him. If you was just you sitting at home, that would be different. He's talking about people in the media who ARE in a position to affect him based on the size of the respective audiences that they have.

I was talking about people in important positions on other teams. They aren't going to take the media's word for it. As for posters on this site...do you think they really represent anything close to an unbiased or accurate representation of actual fans? Most people on this site are looking for reason to criticize Tebow.

As for media audience, I think anybody who is willing to overlook Tebow's massive body of work as far as his reputation/character is concerned, and take one story as gospel, does not matter either.