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Old 12-02-2012, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default Mike Martz - OC

I have always like him as an OC. Why?
The guy plays to WIN...

Norv Turner and Him run similar offenses but I have always wanted him as an OC... And look at what he's done w/some of his QB's.

Some people think he's a head case but IMO is because he knows his shit works!

And look @ the bright side....He isn't Sporano!
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:00 PM   #2
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not a good match for rex's philosophy or the present personnel. i.m.o.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:00 PM   #4
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No -- the guy just gets QBs killed.
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Yeah let's pass it 60 times again and leave the D there all game
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:01 PM   #6
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I think I'd rather have Sparano.
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I'm sorry, I thought scoring points was a good thing...

He only has a history as an OC of scoring points...but
Of course, let's keep the status quo of 7 points,
silly me.


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Old 12-02-2012, 08:11 PM   #8
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Jay Cutler is lucky he isn't dead. Watching that offense called by Mike Martz was some of the most painful football ever.

Norv Turner has run an offense in SD with a solid TE, a tall WR, and a big time running game/pass catching back. And they could put points on the board.
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Mike Martz is still dining on his years as St Louis OC. NO thanks.
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Martz interviewed for head coaching vacancies in Oakland and New Orleans. After the interview, he withdrew his candidacy for the position in Oakland. After initially rejecting an offer due to financial considerations, on February 8, 2006, Martz accepted an offer from the Detroit Lions to be their offensive coordinator and their quarterbacks coach.

In 2006, his first season, the passing game improved considerably, ranking 7th overall behind quarterback Jon Kitna, who had his first 4,000-yard season at age 34. Detroit lost its first five games with Martz and finished 3–13 in his first season as coordinator. Though the offense obviously had its woes, Martz wasn't blamed for very much of the team's issues, as the defense was also bad and there were various injury and personnel issues.

In 2007, with expectations still high following the previous year's disaster, it appeared Martz's system was actually beginning to work, and the Lions looked to be playoff contenders, almost in competition with Green Bay for the division title at mid-season when they sat comfortably at 6–2. Though Kitna was still sacked far too much during this span due mostly due to seven step drops and his inability to quickly read defenses, it was still a great improvement from the year before, and sacks aside, Detroit possessed a decent passing game. Shaun McDonald was their leading receiver with nine hundred and forty three yards. However, the team won only one more game that season and finished 7–9. When even players began to complain of Martz's pass-happy and unbalanced offense, the Lions fired him in the offseason.[2] However, the following season the Lions plummeted in the offensive rankings, and some players (most notably Kitna) were openly frustrated with the conservative play calling that replaced Martz' system as the Lions became the first ever 0-16 team after firing Martz.[3]

San Francisco 49ers
On January 8, 2008, Martz signed a two-year deal to become the offensive coordinator of the San Francisco 49ers, who hoped that a fourth offensive coordinator in four years could re-energize the offense (and, most notably, QB Alex Smith's career).[4]

Smith would injure his shoulder in the preseason, however, and miss the entire 2008 season. Martz lobbied for journeyman J.T. O'Sullivan to come in as his replacement, but O'Sullivan and the 49ers offense struggled in the first half of the season. After 49ers coach Mike Nolan was fired and Mike Singletary was brought in as interim head coach, the team gave Shaun Hill a chance to establish himself as the starting quarterback.

Martz was let go as offensive coordinator after the 49ers named Singletary Head Coach. Singletary reportedly wanted more of a ball-control, run-oriented offense than Martz is known for crafting.[5] San Francisco ranked 23rd out of 32 teams in points scored, 24th in total yards, 13th in passing yards per game and 22nd in net passing yards per attempt, which represents an improvement over 2007 (when SF ranked dead last in all 3 categories), but they ranked 26th in rushing yards & last in total turnovers. However, in 2007 the 49ers only turned the ball over one fewer time than in 2008 under Martz.

Chicago Bears
On February 1, 2010, Martz was hired by the Chicago Bears as their offensive coordinator.[6] During his first year in Chicago, the Bears offense was 28th in passing and 22nd in rushing despite having no significant injuries.

Martz was commonly criticized for aggressive play-calling, and the calls for a pass-happy offense led to quarterback Jay Cutler getting repeatedly sacked. The issue caused Cutler to say to Martz "Tell him I said fuck him!" in a game against the Minnesota Vikings in 2011.[7][8]

On January 3, 2012, Martz resigned his position with the Bears.[9] He reportedly resigned over philosophical differences with Bears head coach Lovie Smith. Martz's final year was marked by season-ending injuries to quarterback Jay Cutler and running back Matt Forte. On January 16, 2012, Martz announced his retirement from coaching.[10][11]
Martz eventually became an analyst for Fox Sports.[12]
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T - good idea in theory, but not so much in practice.

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Jay Cutler is lucky he isn't dead. Watching that offense called by Mike Martz was some of the most painful football ever.

Norv Turner has run an offense in SD with a solid TE, a tall WR, and a big time running game/pass catching back. And they could put points on the board.
We'll need to carry 5 QBs with the beating they will be taking.
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No give Sparano another crack with retooled personnel. Can u really blame play calling for our offensive problems?
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As I said...as an OC he is money.
and afa Cutler getting beat up, you guys realize they had an atrocious O-Line right?

But the Organization had just landed Cutler and wanted to force the issue...well
Thats what happened. Cutler almost died.

So, No one mentions what he did with the Rams and 2 no name QBs?

I'm telling you, Martz is the real deal.

The object is to score points on Offense and he pushes his offenses to do that...
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Holy shit no.

The only possible reason to hire Martz would be seeing Rex Ryan punch him in the face, a la Buddy/Gilbride.
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No thanks

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Holy shit no.

The only possible reason to hire Martz would be seeing Rex Ryan punch him in the face, a la Buddy/Gilbride.

I just don't get how people can be so down on an OC who tries scores points....

especially after having Shotty and Sporano here...
I think you guys are thinking of him as a HC which is NOT what I want...

Do some research and you will see, he is a solid OC




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I'm not a fan of Sparano, but I hate the idea of doing the 3 offensive coordinators in 3 years bit. I think you are just compounding the problem by making the players learn a new system every off season. I'd like to think that a year with the system under the players belt and possibly losing the distraction of Tebow could result in a productive offense.

At the same time I can see the argument where it might be better to just cut your losses.

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I just don't get how people can be so down on an OC who tries scores points....

especially after having Shotty and Sporano here...
I think you guys are thinking of him as an OC which is NOT what I want...

Do some research and you will see, he is a solid OC




His offenses have been giant failures for the last 5-6 years. He doesn't believe in keeping TE's or extra blockers in to protect the QB.
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Look at the history of QB injuries under Martz.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't most of his success with teams that played on turf? "The Greatest Show on Turf"? I thought about him a while back, too, but our stadium is not set up for the style the dude likes to play.
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