[BrucekilledBoomer]

Eli has nothing to prove.

[xxedge72x]

Originally Posted by BrucekilledBoomer

Eli has nothing to prove.

When has anyone proved anything playing inside of a rape cage instead of a pocket?

[LongTimeJetsFan]

never mind.

[Barcs]

This talk is all going to end as soon as the season begins and we start 3-1.

[Jtuds]

Originally Posted by Sloup

81.8%.

Sanchez completed 81.8% of his throws tonight. Say what you will about last year. Say what you will about none of the completions being down the field for more than 10 or so yards. Say what you will about the pick 6 being a bad decision (yes, it was). But just remember that Sanchez completed 81.8% of his throws.

Sanchez is being given almost no help. His line (Ahem, WFH) surrendered 4 sacks in one half. Sanchez doesn't have Santonio Holmes or Jeremy Kerley to throw to right now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Sanchez hasn't even attempted a play action pass in the preseason. The problem is NOT Mark Sanchez. The problem is on the line, which I can't imagine won't be re-examined, and with the wide receivers, which will hopefully be fixed with recovery time for Holmes and Kerley and playing time for Stephen Hill and Jordan White.

I'm all for complaining; this is a message board and people are entitled to their own opinions. But the opinion that I won't stand for is that Mark Sanchez is the weak link on this offense. The media is hoping, begging, pleading for the chance to cover Tim Tebow as a starting QB, and we can't let them win. We have to stand together and say, "Mark Sanchez is our quarterback, and he's doing a hell of a job in spite of the adversity in his own locker room."

81.8%. If you include the Bengals quarter, he has thrown 13/17, which is 76.5%. No, these numbers probably aren't sustainable, but his preseason completion percentages for the last three years were 61.4%, 64.6%, and 60.5%. Sanchez is not the problem, and I don't want to read your complaints about him.

This doesn't mean shit. You know what does? Everything he's done in regular season games so far in his career. Get over it, he's not the guy. We already had a QB who only completed short passes, and he was better than Sanchez.

[FriendlyGiantsFan]

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

So an overthrow on a deep ball into opponent's territory is worse than throwing to a guy who is blanketed on an out route on 3rd and 10 in fg range, on a route short of the sticks, which, if picked, is 100% of the time going to result in a TD?

The difference to me is that Eli has a better grasp on his decision making and what it can cost the team. Big picture. Sanchez has a tendency to panic and do what I described above.

Eh, it's preseason and they're rotating a lot of new guys at WR. I think Eli's pick was a miscommunication. It could have been him reading the sight-reaction by the wideout wrong (the Giants' offense uses these heavily) or it could have been the wrong route by the WR. Sanchez pick was not a great decision on his part, but I honestly think it was more of a great play by the DB than anything else. Hosley read the route, undercut Turner at the right time, and showed great hand strength at the point of the catch; I actually think Turner's hands made contact with that ball while Hosley took it away.

It wasn't a great play by Sanchez, but it wasn't terrible. Credit the DB for making a play and move on.

[xmscott]

Hey.

Its not like Mark is missing a lot of long throws. The Jets arent running them.

[MiamiDolphin]

Nobody can give up on Sanchez. He's your best QB.

Also, doesn't help that you don't have much weapons on offense for him. You can't sit there and blame Sanchez for problems that aren't entirely in his control.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Originally Posted by xmscott

Hey.

Its not like Mark is missing a lot of long throws. The Jets arent running them.

According to Sparano they had a few deep shots they missed vs. the Giants.

[Velocityvirus]

Originally Posted by MiamiDolphin

Nobody can give up on Sanchez. He's your best QB.

Also, doesn't help that you don't have much weapons on offense for him. You can't sit there and blame Sanchez for problems that aren't entirely in his control.

I don't buy that. How can Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and both Mannings make normal guys look great. A great QB can make a no name guy a household name.

[Flyboy]

How do we know Sanchez didn't have the opportunities to throw it deep but chose not to, anyway?

[bobaru]

Kinda expect sloth to live in the heart of sanchez- sanchez is weak and wounded. He never portrays anything more. Rarely gives more. Hell, even the weak and wounded rise to the occassion when backed into a corner. But, sanchez has no sense of urgency. No ability to sense urgency.

Its the pre-season, so i'm not going on what i've seen the last couple games. Sanchez has no heart. he strains to fake it, but it's obvious he has no ability.

So, yes.... Sanchez is the problem. He has no heart and no ability. Didn't have to watch a moment of pre-season to know as much.

[displacedfan]

Originally Posted by Velocityvirus

I don't buy that. How can Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and both Mannings make normal guys look great. A great QB can make a no name guy a household name.

How do the top 5 QB's in the league do that? Keep on going down the list of QB's and you see, oh man the rest of QB's have help. In fact in most of the Super Bowls won by the QB's above, their defenses played better than the QB's in the SB. Just saying.

The next crop of QBs in your list Big Ben, Rivers, Romo, Vick, Cutler, etc have great talent. Big Ben has more on the defensive side than offense, Rivers has had LT, Gates, and Jackson, Sproles on his team. Romo has Dez and Miles plus all those running backs and Witten. Cutler had Marshall and has Marshall again.