[Pam]

France to Italy: We Don't Want Your Tunisian Immigrants
Apr 18, 2011 – 10:16 AM

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Dana Kennedy Contributor
MENTON, France -- Simmering tensions between Italy and France over the influx of thousands of Tunisian immigrants reached the boiling point after French riot police blocked trains carrying North Africans bound for the French Riviera from southern Italy.

More than 20,000 Tunisian immigrants have arrived in Italy since the January revolution in their country. Rome granted them residence permits of six months so they can join "friends and family" in France and elsewhere in Europe -- a move that has infuriated France.

On Sunday, about 350 mostly Italian activists supporting the Tunisian immigrants, and chanting anti-France slogans, massed at the Ventimiglia, Italy, train station, and French riot police stopped trains from crossing into Menton. Stunned tourists found themselves stranded in the middle of the increasingly bizarre conflict.

Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini issued a statement late Sunday instructing Italy's ambassador to Paris to express "the firm protest of the Italian government," calling France's actions illegal based on the European Union's policy of open borders.

According to the EU's Schengen agreement, which went into force in 1997, free movement of people is guaranteed across borders.

But sources told Agence France-Presse today that the European Commission believes France has complied with Schengen rules.

French Interior Minister Claude Gueant, in turn, today seemed to soft-pedal France's decision to bar the trains on Sunday, calling it a "one-time" measure because of concern over the protests and rally at the Ventimiglia train station.

French police, in full riot gear, ensured that the trains, one of which was optimistically dubbed the "Train of Dignity" by supporters of the Africans, did not cross the border Sunday into the seaside resort of Menton and on to Marseilles, another two hours by train to the east.

"Our orders are to cancel all services from Italy," said a spokesman for French national train operator SNCF, although trains had resumed service this morning.

French authorities also attempted to block ancient footpaths linking the two countries.

"I, for one, am relieved," a part-time resident of Menton, the first stop for trains crossing the border from Italy into France, told AOL News today.

The British woman, who did not want her name used, said that Tunisian immigrants were "all over" the picturesque town adjacent to the principality of Monaco, which is home to mainly wealthy, retired French and expatriates. "I don't feel safe here anymore."

Frattini's move to try to censure France came after Italy enraged the French last week by giving out temporary residence visas, allowing the immigrants to travel in the European Union. Germany and a few other countries in the 27-nation EU are also concerned that giving shelter to migrants will encourage more to move illegally into Europe.

Italy has said it feels deserted by the rest of Europe. Ventimiglia's mayor, Gaetano Scullino, told the Italian news agency AGI that "Italy should not be left on its own. We are Europe's border."

Scullino also said he stood with the pro-immigrant demonstrators.

"It seems like a peaceful protest to me," he said. "I think the free movement of refugees is a European rule, and I hope that all European countries do their part to face this current emergency."

The president of the Cote d'Azur Humanitarian Association for Tunisians was in Ventimiglia Sunday, hoping to accompany, with members of his group, some 60 to 70 Tunisian immigrants on the train from Italy to Marseilles. But the trains were stopped before the French border.

"We are here because these people deserve generosity and openness from us," Mejdi Chamakhi told today's Nice-Matin, a French newspaper. "We're not here to be political. These are normal young people who are ambitious and just want a better future for themselves."

Chamakhi and his associates passed out snacks to the Tunisian immigrants stuck at the train station as demonstrators addressed the crowd.

"France wanted to show its muscles by blocking its borders," a spokesman for the pro-African group Welcome bellowed over speakers at the Ventimiglia train station. "As a result, we have a Europe that transformed Italy into a massive cave crammed with people. The authorities have chosen to erect a wall between our two countries. We need to drop it!"

Several EU countries have asked the European Commission to condemn Italy's decision to issue visas to Tunisian immigrants. But Italy's Frattini has said that "Europe is going nowhere if we erect walls" between countries.

[James Calvin]

Italy is all O-hai, and France is all ok-bai.

[Sundayjack]

Haw Haw Haw. I'm all conflicted about who to root for here.

[Johnny English]

Originally Posted by Sundayjack

Haw Haw Haw. I'm all conflicted about who to root for here.

Most mainland European countries expect the EU to be a considerably more one-way process than it actually is, but the French are the worst. When it comes to getting farming subsidies they're the most staunch supporters of the European state that you'll find, but as soon as they're actually asked to contribute something in return it's all Gallic shrugs and blockaded ports.

I love France, the French and pretty much everything about their country and culture, but they're like a bunch of petty teenagers who do nothing but scowl, stomp their feet and throw tantrums whenever they're asked to actually make the slightest effort to help out with anything.

[Pam]

Originally Posted by Sundayjack

Haw Haw Haw. I'm all conflicted about who to root for here.

Heh. Me too. I was hoping you would respond.

[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by Johnny English

Most mainland European countries expect the EU to be a considerably more one-way process than it actually is, but the French are the worst. When it comes to getting farming subsidies they're the most staunch supporters of the European state that you'll find, but as soon as they're actually asked to contribute something in return it's all Gallic shrugs and blockaded ports.

I love France, the French and pretty much everything about their country and culture, but they're like a bunch of petty teenagers who do nothing but scowl, stomp their feet and throw tantrums whenever they're asked to actually make the slightest effort to help out with anything.

But they're so easy and fun to hate.

Behold the inevitable problem - and this is, like, Example No. 385 - why the EU is such a grand idea in theory, but in practice is like herding cats.

[Johnny English]

Originally Posted by Sundayjack

But they're so easy and fun to hate.

Behold the inevitable problem - and this is, like, Example No. 385 - why the EU is such a grand idea in theory, but in practice is like herding cats.

I wouldn't go as far as hating them, they're just a bit stroppy. They're harmless enough, and they do have their charms.

[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by Pam

Heh. Me too. I was hoping you would respond.

I have such strong desire to support Italy and and even stronger desire to smile and lump insults on France. But then, I look at this like a really good Three Stooges episode, where you don't really give a fuck if they figure out how to fix the plumping, because it's more fun to watch them whack each other with pipes and get soaked to the gills while they screw things up even more.

[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by Johnny English

I wouldn't go as far as hating them, they're just a bit stroppy. They're harmless enough, and they do have their charms.

Yeah, hate's not the right word. But anything less is just fiddling with the English language in search of something that doesn't exist.

[guinness77]

But...did France say F U Koz?? pics or GTFO!

[gustoonarmy]

France and Italy hurl insults, then the real fun starts, who can run backwards the fastest

[Johnny English]

See, when they do things To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily. it's hard not to quite like the French. They occupy a completely different world to the rest of us.

[MBGreen]

I guess the Zidane headbutt is still a sore spot between these 2 pussy countries.

[Vorrecht]

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[kbgreen]

Originally Posted by Johnny English

See, when they do things To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily. it's hard not to quite like the French. They occupy a completely different world to the rest of us.

That was really funny! It sums up the French perfectly for me.