Good McNight, Joe

Green Lantern · 09-02-2010, 10:45 PM

I've seen enough. Please end the inevitable already and send him packing to like 5 different teams over the next 4 years before he's selling car insurance.
Washington and Woodhead play like Jets. McNight plays like a bafoon.

ace_o_spades · 09-02-2010, 10:46 PM

Great thread....

Mr Electric · 09-02-2010, 10:47 PM

Gay McThread, Green Lantern.

IATA · 09-02-2010, 10:48 PM

Simple Lantern.

MarionBarber31 · 09-02-2010, 10:52 PM

Rex went off on him in the postgame press conference. Says he'll make the team but won't suit up until they trust him

Br4dw4y5ux · 09-02-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MarionBarber31

Rex went off on him in the postgame press conference. Says he'll make the team but won't suit up until they trust him

Have we seen anything from McKnight that suggests he's even remotely NFL material? He seems to be awfully highstrung for a position that is going to take a beating every game.

MarionBarber31 · 09-02-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Br4dw4y5ux

Have we seen anything from McKnight that suggests he's even remotely NFL material? He seems to be awfully highstrung for a position that is going to take a beating every game.

To answer your question, no. I was just reporting what Rex said (via Cimini)

talisaynon · 09-02-2010, 10:59 PM

If i sucked as much as him at my job id have been laid off 15 minutes into sitting in my cubicle.

Italian Seafood · 09-02-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Br4dw4y5ux

Have we seen anything from McKnight that suggests he's even remotely NFL material?

I haven't. I'd trust Washington or Woodhead before him in a game right now.

Royal Tee · 09-02-2010, 11:13 PM

No we can't!!

Don't you realize how many people already said he was the equivalent of Leon?
This man can't even stand in Leon's presence...

He looks Tentative, unsure and actually looks slow because of it.

masivemunkey · 09-02-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Br4dw4y5ux

Have we seen anything from McKnight that suggests he's even remotely NFL material? He seems to be awfully highstrung for a position that is going to take a beating every game.

He's seems very gholston-ish. You can see that he's pretty quick, but is just so timid. Maybe he can get over that and be a good rb, but he definitely is way behind washington and even woodhead at this point.

CatoTheElder · 09-02-2010, 11:21 PM

He's good on PR. He needs to work on securing the ball better but the last guy to raise those complaints is now our starting HB. He's a project but he's showing potential now. This game won't come quick for him but he's showing more than Gholston ever did in his first season.

Jetfanmack · 09-02-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Italian Seafood

I haven't. I'd trust Washington or Woodhead before him in a game right now.

There's no question Woodhead and Washington are better players offensively right now. Woodhead's instincts, speed, physicality, and pass catching ability and Washington's size and impressive power make them better options right now than Joe McKnight.

But McKnight was a 4th rounder for a reason. I'd be very surprised if he was cut. While he certainly hasn't been impressive, he has a lot of raw tools there, and he's only a rookie. I'd say a rookie 4th round pick is cut in training camp once every 4 years or so. It's extremely rare. And it's not like we can't use him, he can return punts.

I think we end up trading Washington for a conditional late round pick next year. Hopefully some team that needs a runningback was impressed with him enough to do that. A lot of these mini-trades happen around this time of the year, from Earthwind Moreland to Kevin O'Connell.

rex2009 · 09-02-2010, 11:33 PM

Typical over reaction by the usual group. Let's cut him after 4 pre-season game. Shut the fuck up! Give the kid a chance, it takes some players longer to fully develop. Anyone can see he has a load of talent. The coaching staff has to get it out of him.

........ · 09-02-2010, 11:34 PM

What the fuck is a bafoon? Is that a cross between a baboon and a buffoon?

He's had problems in the preseason. Rex said he doesn't trust him. Of course he doesn't trust him. He can't hold on to the ball. He's dropped the ball. So has CW. McKnight's up 3 - 2 in that regard.

If Washington and Woodhead look more NFL ready at this point, it's because they've both been in the league for years. As in multiple. Each. And in that time, neither one has shown the same kind of potential as McKnight. Hell, Washington's on his 3rd team. So let's proclaim him exactly what he is: a rookie with a shitty preseason and a whole lot of talent who needs to catch up to the game mentally and get his fucking ball control fundamentals fixed. He's not a surefire bust by any stretch.

Either Washington or Woodhead is making the roster, and either one should play to start the season instead of McKnight and pick up his 1 or 2 carries that the offense demands. Neither one offers the same kind of long term promise, though, and there sure as hell won't be carries for both this season.

CrashDMB237 · 09-02-2010, 11:37 PM

If McKnight makes this roster but the two people at his same position that CLEARLY outplayed him don't, I lose a little faith in Rex (VERY little, but some). I thought he was a no bullshit kinda guy who wouldn't keep a waste of a player on his roster just because he was a 4th round pick. He's been a nobody since high school. He was supposed to be the next Bush at USC, he failed. He was supposed to be the next Leon in NY, he will without a doubt fail if he hasn't already.

You don't think it was a HUGE red flag when Pete Carroll, his former coach, had a chance to draft him but took Leon Washington instead? It was a head-scratcher then and it's a blunder now.

Jetfanmack · 09-02-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IgnatiusJReilly

What the fuck is a bafoon? Is that a cross between a baboon and a buffoon?

He's had problems in the preseason. Rex said he doesn't trust him. Of course he doesn't trust him. He can't hold on to the ball. He's dropped the ball. So has CW. McKnight's up 3 - 2 in that regard.

If Washington and Woodhead look more NFL ready at this point, it's because they've both been in the league for years. As in multiple. Each. And in that time, neither one has shown the same kind of potential as McKnight. Hell, Washington's on his 3rd team. So let's proclaim him exactly what he is: a rookie with a shitty preseason and a whole lot of talent who needs to catch up to the game mentally and get his fucking ball control fundamentals fixed. He's not a surefire bust.

Either Washington or Woodhead is making the roster, and either one should play to start the season instead of McKnight and pick up his 1 or 2 carries that the offense demands. Neither one offers the same kind of long term promise, though, and there sure as hell won't be carries for both this season.

Don't ever be so sure, runningbacks get hurt more than anybody. LT suffered nagging injuries each of the first two years in the first game. Greene hasn't proven he can stay healthy yet. If both stay healthy, then neither Washington nor Woodhead will have a big role. But if either one went down, Washington would stand to get some carries, and Woodhead would get a few and some catches from the backfield.

We ran over 600 carries last year. We'll need one or both at times this season most likely. Woodhead came up pretty big at times in the Carolina game last year for instance.

NYJFan10 · 09-02-2010, 11:41 PM

And yet people were killing me in the game thread for suggesting Washington and Woodhead should be on the team over him. All McKnight does well is return, great...so did Desmond Howard. But he's got to be as good as Howard returning to have any use since he doesn't show any capacity to be a pro runner. People talk up his talent as if he's a first-rounder, he's a fourth-rounder for a reason. First-rounders you expect to contribute at some point. Fourth-rounders are maybes at best.

AbdulSalam · 09-02-2010, 11:42 PM

He has skills. but he fumbles. then again so does the rest of the team pretty much. the Jets have pretty much sucked on offense all camp, mcknight is no exception, he has sucked too.

Jetfanmack · 09-02-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

If McKnight makes this roster but the two people at his same position that CLEARLY outplayed him don't, I lose a little faith in Rex (VERY little, but some). I thought he was a no bullshit kinda guy who wouldn't keep a waste of a player on his roster just because he was a 4th round pick. He's been a nobody since high school. He was supposed to be the next Bush at USC, he failed. He was supposed to be the next Leon in NY, he will without a doubt fail if he hasn't already.

You don't think it was a HUGE red flag when Pete Carroll, his former coach, had a chance to draft him but took Leon Washington instead? It was a head-scratcher then and it's a blunder now.

If you think Leon Washington can recover from this injury and be the player he once was, there's no question he's better than McKnight. He chose to take that gamble. He hasn't really gotten that many USC guys.

McKnight is a rookie. Woodhead is a few years out of school. So is Chauncey. Clearly, McKnight is struggling adjusting to what he needs to do to be successful. Will he ever get it? Who knows, but if the Jets saw enough in him to draft him in the 4th round and get rid of Washington (you can play it from that angle, too), he deserves at least two training camps to show whether or not he can stick.

09-02-2010, 10:45 PM	#1
Green Lantern Totally Addicted Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,042 vCash: 2000	Good McNight, Joe I've seen enough. Please end the inevitable already and send him packing to like 5 different teams over the next 4 years before he's selling car insurance. Washington and Woodhead play like Jets. McNight plays like a bafoon.

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MarionBarber31 Totally Addicted Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bradley Beach, NJ Posts: 1,667 vCash: 25	Rex went off on him in the postgame press conference. Says he'll make the team but won't suit up until they trust him __________________

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Royal Tee Girls juss wanna have fun Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mixin and Makin Music! Posts: 16,992 vCash: 3000	No we can't!! Don't you realize how many people already said he was the equivalent of Leon? This man can't even stand in Leon's presence... He looks Tentative, unsure and actually looks slow because of it. __________________ theRoyal1.com the NY JETS Defense - "Snappy and Reponkinslive!!"

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Mr Electric Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 18,437 vCash: 1015	Gay McThread, Green Lantern.

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IATA Trolls Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,063 vCash: 50	Simple Lantern.

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talisaynon Totally Addicted Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,872 vCash: 25	If i sucked as much as him at my job id have been laid off 15 minutes into sitting in my cubicle.

09-02-2010, 11:33 PM	#14
rex2009 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 485 vCash: 500	Typical over reaction by the usual group. Let's cut him after 4 pre-season game. Shut the fuck up! Give the kid a chance, it takes some players longer to fully develop. Anyone can see he has a load of talent. The coaching staff has to get it out of him.

09-02-2010, 11:34 PM	#15
........ Trolls Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 0 vCash: 25	What the fuck is a bafoon? Is that a cross between a baboon and a buffoon? He's had problems in the preseason. Rex said he doesn't trust him. Of course he doesn't trust him. He can't hold on to the ball. He's dropped the ball. So has CW. McKnight's up 3 - 2 in that regard. If Washington and Woodhead look more NFL ready at this point, it's because they've both been in the league for years. As in multiple. Each. And in that time, neither one has shown the same kind of potential as McKnight. Hell, Washington's on his 3rd team. So let's proclaim him exactly what he is: a rookie with a shitty preseason and a whole lot of talent who needs to catch up to the game mentally and get his fucking ball control fundamentals fixed. He's not a surefire bust by any stretch. Either Washington or Woodhead is making the roster, and either one should play to start the season instead of McKnight and pick up his 1 or 2 carries that the offense demands. Neither one offers the same kind of long term promise, though, and there sure as hell won't be carries for both this season.

09-02-2010, 11:37 PM	#16
CrashDMB237 Totally Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 1,008 vCash: 500	If McKnight makes this roster but the two people at his same position that CLEARLY outplayed him don't, I lose a little faith in Rex (VERY little, but some). I thought he was a no bullshit kinda guy who wouldn't keep a waste of a player on his roster just because he was a 4th round pick. He's been a nobody since high school. He was supposed to be the next Bush at USC, he failed. He was supposed to be the next Leon in NY, he will without a doubt fail if he hasn't already. You don't think it was a HUGE red flag when Pete Carroll, his former coach, had a chance to draft him but took Leon Washington instead? It was a head-scratcher then and it's a blunder now.

09-02-2010, 11:41 PM	#18
NYJFan10 Totally Addicted Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,980 vCash: 2000	And yet people were killing me in the game thread for suggesting Washington and Woodhead should be on the team over him. All McKnight does well is return, great...so did Desmond Howard. But he's got to be as good as Howard returning to have any use since he doesn't show any capacity to be a pro runner. People talk up his talent as if he's a first-rounder, he's a fourth-rounder for a reason. First-rounders you expect to contribute at some point. Fourth-rounders are maybes at best.

09-02-2010, 11:42 PM	#19
AbdulSalam Totally Addicted Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,434 vCash: 275	He has skills. but he fumbles. then again so does the rest of the team pretty much. the Jets have pretty much sucked on offense all camp, mcknight is no exception, he has sucked too.