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The difference in the defense from 2008 to 2009, with virtually the exact same personnel, just outlines the meaning of a great defensive coordinator. Rex Ryan is a genius, Bob Sutton is not.
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i'd still feel more comfortable if Bob Sutton was "parking cars" for Woody.
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I've always wondered whether the Jets complete refusal to blitz down the stretch in '08 was Sutton's fault or Mangini's. I guess we'll never really know.
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Sutton has done pretty well as a LB'rs coach for us.
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Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard were pretty big additions. Also, Douglas, Shepperd, and Strick were all upgrades over what we had.
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Anyone who blames Sutton when he was DC under Mangini is fooling themselves. Sutton was DC in title only. Mangini was doing the job of DC. Sutton just did Mangini's bidding. If you paid any attention at all to the sideline conversations between Sutton and Mangini, it was obvious, but fans have to have someone to blame.
Sutton is a good coach. His tenure proves that point. Frankly, I think he will get another shot at DC elsewhere, I believe, sooner or later. There are quite a few NFL HC's who name coordinators in name only. Often, they are given the title just to be a scapegoat when th HC needs one. Herm was great at that. Coaches that are secure don't have to do that. Bellichick has always been the Pats DC since Crennel left. He didn't even bother to name a new one this year. He is secure, and doesn't need a scapegoat in the wings. Sutton gets blamed, unfairly, for the year he was DC under Mangini.
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I guess we won't know whether it was really Mangini or Sutton that was behind the atrocious 3-8 defensive scheme in 08, but regardless, I don't think that should factor in when we judge how Sutton teaches/develops a player's technique as a positional coach. As a linebacker's coach I haven't had any qualms with Sutton, either.
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Sutton wouldn't have been my first choice for a coach under any circumstance after 2008 but the LB play was good last season and the players generally like him so if it ain't broke, then don't fix it.
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he looks likes hes pissed off whenever rex is up to his antics on hard knocks. prob cause hes an army guy.
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Maybe they mean games? Weeb coached before the 16 game sched so Sutton will be entering his 11th season but has already coached in 6 more games than Weeb did.
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