[CrackTheSky]

I finally read an article that talked about why TJ is wanting a new contract. He is do 6mil for 2010 and he knows he will be cut, so he wants to renegotiate on that premis. Couldn't tell you if its true but if the Jets could find a way to restructure him in order to keep him for a couple more years that would be fine by me as a fan. I wouldn't mind sweetening the deal for him but not by much, just a token for his hard work, if he has to break the bank on the Jets and nothing else will do, then he plays or holds out this Sept. on his current contract and the Jets cut or trade him next offseason. I think he has at least two to three years of tread left and having that three headed RB monster in place for a few years would be a good thing. Any thoughts?

[Steve032]

Another RB thread. And we need to resign Leon and Mangold as well as the rookies before we do anything with an aging RB

[HardHitta]

He had a great season and therefore thats why he wants the new contract but at 31 years old aswell as he was a product of the o-line and brett favre, Re-sign Leon.

[coorslightcans]

aging rb? hes probably one of the best in shape rbs in the league regardless of age. this guys got alot of game left in his tank.

[Hobbes3259]

Originally Posted by CrackTheSky

I finally read an article that talked about why TJ is wanting a new contract. He is do 6mil for 2010 and he knows he will be cut, so he wants to renegotiate on that premis. Couldn't tell you if its true but if the Jets could find a way to restructure him in order to keep him for a couple more years that would be fine by me as a fan. I wouldn't mind sweetening the deal for him but not by much, just a token for his hard work, if he has to break the bank on the Jets and nothing else will do, then he plays or holds out this Sept. on his current contract and the Jets cut or trade him next offseason. I think he has at least two to three years of tread left and having that three headed RB monster in place for a few years would be a good thing. Any thoughts?

Yes. 900 K this year, and 7 mil in cap damage this year.

At the end of the day they will convert next years bonus to salary this year, and even out his cap figure to 3.5/3.5 (roughly).


The contract was structured to protect the NYJ in case he didnt pan out. But he did.

They cannot screw him, if they ever intend to get other free agents in the future, without overpaying.

[BadgerOnLSD]

Originally Posted by coorslightcans

aging rb? hes probably one of the best in shape rbs in the league regardless of age. this guys got alot of game left in his tank.

I guarantee he won't repeat his 2008 performance.

[Hobbes3259]

Originally Posted by BadgerOnLSD

I guarantee he won't repeat his 2008 performance.

Gee, Magic 8 ball...

Are you saying that because he is going to drop off, or because the other backs will cut into his carries...?

I would bet that expressed as a percentage of carries, he gains the same yards, and scores the same TD's

[coorslightcans]

why and how could you say that? rex ryan wants to play smashmouth football tj is the back to do so. tj is the most under rated rb in the league.

[tomdeb]

Originally Posted by CrackTheSky

I finally read an article that talked about why TJ is wanting a new contract. He is do 6mil for 2010 and he knows he will be cut, so he wants to renegotiate on that premis. Couldn't tell you if its true but if the Jets could find a way to restructure him in order to keep him for a couple more years that would be fine by me as a fan. I wouldn't mind sweetening the deal for him but not by much, just a token for his hard work, if he has to break the bank on the Jets and nothing else will do, then he plays or holds out this Sept. on his current contract and the Jets cut or trade him next offseason. I think he has at least two to three years of tread left and having that three headed RB monster in place for a few years would be a good thing. Any thoughts?

TRADE HIM NOW! His trade value will never be higher...he'll never repeat last year...he ran behind a good OL...we got decent other guys at RB...we could use the WR or draft picks he brings...he's a whiner...I posted after 2006 we should trade Pennington because his value then would never be higher...guess what... we got squat for him.

[Dbrickdaman]

Originally Posted by CrackTheSky

I finally read an article that talked about why TJ is wanting a new contract. He is do 6mil for 2010 and he knows he will be cut, so he wants to renegotiate on that premis. Couldn't tell you if its true but if the Jets could find a way to restructure him in order to keep him for a couple more years that would be fine by me as a fan. I wouldn't mind sweetening the deal for him but not by much, just a token for his hard work, if he has to break the bank on the Jets and nothing else will do, then he plays or holds out this Sept. on his current contract and the Jets cut or trade him next offseason. I think he has at least two to three years of tread left and having that three headed RB monster in place for a few years would be a good thing. Any thoughts?

He signed the contract knowing this just shut up and perfom end of discussion.

[Firemangini Ed]

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If the numbers from that site are correct is does look like TJ will get cut next year. But if next year is capless that could change a lot. Maybe thats why the Jets did the contract that way, they expected next year to be cap less all along.

Maybe the Jets should offer him the deal Lavernues was offered, where he agrees to be released in a way that lifts the cap burden from the Jets. Might be the best thing for everyone.

[ukilledkenny]

if he just wants to renegotiate and tanny wants to keep him around something will get worked out pretty easily. tanny is a cap genius after all.

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Originally Posted by CrackTheSky

I finally read an article that talked about why TJ is wanting a new contract. He is do 6mil for 2010 and he knows he will be cut, so he wants to renegotiate on that premis. Couldn't tell you if its true but if the Jets could find a way to restructure him in order to keep him for a couple more years that would be fine by me as a fan. I wouldn't mind sweetening the deal for him but not by much, just a token for his hard work, if he has to break the bank on the Jets and nothing else will do, then he plays or holds out this Sept. on his current contract and the Jets cut or trade him next offseason. I think he has at least two to three years of tread left and having that three headed RB monster in place for a few years would be a good thing. Any thoughts?

Wow, I can't believe no one has brought this up before.

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Originally Posted by Firemangini Ed

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If the numbers from that site are correct is does look like TJ will get cut next year. But if next year is capless that could change a lot. Maybe thats why the Jets did the contract that way, they expected next year to be cap less all along.

Maybe the Jets should offer him the deal Lavernues was offered, where he agrees to be released in a way that lifts the cap burden from the Jets. Might be the best thing for everyone.

The numbers are correct. He knew when he signed that he wasn't going to see 2010 on this current contract, and so did everyone looking at the contract. It's not a new issue.

We're not going to release him this year. The only reason Coles got that deal is because his entire contract was guaranteed. We have TJ for only 900k of new money this season. He's not going anywhere unless it's part of a trade.

Next year, he'll be gone and we'll swallow the $1.5 million cap hit.

[Jets n Boys]

Originally Posted by IgnatiusJReilly

Wow, I can't believe no one has brought this up before.

Exactly what i thought...The dude finally realised the issue and created a new thread.

[vilmatic]

Originally Posted by Hobbes3259

Yes. 900 K this year, and 7 mil in cap damage this year.

At the end of the day they will convert next years bonus to salary this year, and even out his cap figure to 3.5/3.5 (roughly).


The contract was structured to protect the NYJ in case he didnt pan out. But he did.

They cannot screw him, if they ever intend to get other free agents in the future, without overpaying.

this sounds about right to me, though I think they'll be able to attract free agents whether or not they screw Thomas Jones.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

My thoughts on this are that the contract was poorly structured, almost guaranteed to create this crisis in 2009, and that the Jets should just ignore him for the moment and deal with the other contractual things they need to get done.

If they find at the end of that process that they have some money left over to make Jones happy, by shifting some of the 2010 money to 2009 then I have no problem with that.

Really the Jets are in the drivers seat here and they should just sit back and relax and do their best not to inflame the situation further until they have a better grasp of where their cap is going to be once Sanchez is signed and Washington gets his extension, etc.

If they wind up making "line in the sand" type comments, as they did with Kendall, they'll regret it before they're done.

[CrackTheSky]

Originally Posted by Jets n Boys

Exactly what i thought...The dude finally realised the issue and created a new thread.

Yes I created a new thread, that is what a forum is for, discussion of topics. If you have already discussed this one then don't chime in, this is for people that either haven't yet discussed the topic or people still interested. If your not into it simply move on to another thread. I intend to post a new thread on any questions or topics I feel like discussing.

[24McNeil]

f- him.

did he deserve 6 million his first year with us??

let him play out or sit out and if he sit's out the year, his career is over. he has ZERO leverage and the jets need to take a stand because a new player does this every year to us.

[Jets n Boys]

Originally Posted by CrackTheSky

Yes I created a new thread, that is what a forum is for, discussion of topics. If you have already discussed this one then don't chime in, this is for people that either haven't yet discussed the topic or people still interested. If your not into it simply move on to another thread. I intend to post a new thread on any questions or topics I feel like discussing.

Kindly do so and your time on TGG will be limited. There were about 5 threads on the first page saying the same stuff. Its more like spamming IMO.

And forums are for discussions, not creating a thread that already exists five times. Feel free to create a thread named "Reason for Leon's Holdout"