DO we play 4-3 as our base D now?

dBLitzer28 · 11-27-2006, 06:45 PM

Im not sure but i remember CBS showed the 4-3 when they announced the starting D. I also didnt check during the game because i was too busy watchin kerry rhodes tackle everyone.

JetsIn2004 · 11-27-2006, 06:48 PM

They have introed us that way the past few weeks. It's all from the PR staff.

jonnyd · 11-27-2006, 06:48 PM

we have been playing a lot of 4-3....thats part of the reason weve improved

Borgata · 11-27-2006, 06:56 PM

CBS kinda introduced the patriots as a 4-3 too or at least there diagram thing they had was of a 4-3. Even though this is a bit off topic did anyone else listen to the sirius radio broadcast of the game im guessing its the same guys that do the game on regular radio but they had Joe Namath on as a guest during the game and he was talkin about sumthin and refered to himself in the third person was pretty funny.

KJet84 · 11-27-2006, 07:15 PM

Hybrid people hybrid. We are a base 3-4 defense, but line up in the beginning of games with 4 on the line to try to get the other team to commit to the pass.

Tight · 11-27-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyd

we have been playing a lot of 4-3....thats part of the reason weve improved

not really.

Jake · 11-27-2006, 08:04 PM

I've seen just as much 3-4 as 4-3. Using both is helping, but blitzes have been the key, along with DRob improving his technique at the NT spot.

Kris 15 · 11-27-2006, 08:10 PM

Seemed to me like they played mainly a 3-4, with the LBs right up on the line.

abyzmul · 11-27-2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyd

we have been playing a lot of 4-3....thats part of the reason weve improved

We've mainly improved because Mangini stapled a breaded pork chop to the top bar of Dewayne Robertson's facemask. Oh, and the blitzes, they have helped as well.

hazmat · 11-27-2006, 10:07 PM

I haven't seen them play any 4 down lineman in a while...Still not sure why the announcers list it as a 4-3, it's not like that's going to fool anyone.

Richiebsweet · 11-28-2006, 04:13 PM

The JETS are playing the base defense that gets the job done.

Ambrose · 11-28-2006, 08:34 PM

Ok. . . all together this time.

The most commonly used and basic 3-4 line up the Jets have used this year is to have both Hobson and Thomas on the los at the snap with Thomas with his hand down-- it looks like a 5-2 then or depending on where Hobson is a 4-3. At other times Thomas may be stangin up at the los. Rarely will you see the Jets in what appears to be a 3-4 with only three guys on the line with their hand down.

In some ways the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3 is a matter of semantics. Since Thomas is on the line much of the time he looks like a D end instead of a LB. If the DE/LB (like Thomas) can be effective in all situations -- run, pass coverage, pass rush -- the 3-4 gives the defense more flexibility. The only other real difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3 are the gap assignments which are usually more varied and intricate in a 3-4.

When everyone was griping and moaning about the 3-4 they acted like there were only three defensive players on the line most of the time. This isnt the case. Usually -- except in obvious long passing situations there will be 4 guys (3 d lineman and one LB) on the line. As the guys we have have gotten better at playing their assignments and been able to implement an increasingly intricate system of looks, coverages and blitzes, the defense's performance has improved.

Long & Winding Rhode · 11-28-2006, 09:42 PM

I've noticed BT standing up a lot, and since they list him as the 4th lineman I would say we are at least a hybrid, if not a base 3-4.

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dBLitzer28 Totally Addicted Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 1,424 vCash: 550	DO we play 4-3 as our base D now? Im not sure but i remember CBS showed the 4-3 when they announced the starting D. I also didnt check during the game because i was too busy watchin kerry rhodes tackle everyone.

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11-27-2006, 06:48 PM	#2
JetsIn2004 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,913 vCash: 2000	They have introed us that way the past few weeks. It's all from the PR staff.

11-27-2006, 06:48 PM	#3
jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ct via queens Posts: 8,524 vCash: 2000	we have been playing a lot of 4-3....thats part of the reason weve improved

11-27-2006, 06:56 PM	#4
Borgata TheGangGreen.com Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 499 vCash: 2110	CBS kinda introduced the patriots as a 4-3 too or at least there diagram thing they had was of a 4-3. Even though this is a bit off topic did anyone else listen to the sirius radio broadcast of the game im guessing its the same guys that do the game on regular radio but they had Joe Namath on as a guest during the game and he was talkin about sumthin and refered to himself in the third person was pretty funny.

11-27-2006, 07:15 PM	#5
KJet84 TheGangGreen.com Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 284 vCash: 2000	Hybrid people hybrid. We are a base 3-4 defense, but line up in the beginning of games with 4 on the line to try to get the other team to commit to the pass.

11-27-2006, 08:04 PM	#7
Jake Totally Addicted Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 12,722 vCash: 1401	I've seen just as much 3-4 as 4-3. Using both is helping, but blitzes have been the key, along with DRob improving his technique at the NT spot.

11-27-2006, 08:10 PM	#8
Kris 15 Totally Addicted Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 14,538 vCash: 1251	Seemed to me like they played mainly a 3-4, with the LBs right up on the line.

11-27-2006, 10:07 PM	#10
hazmat Totally Addicted Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,228 vCash: 2000	I haven't seen them play any 4 down lineman in a while...Still not sure why the announcers list it as a 4-3, it's not like that's going to fool anyone.

11-28-2006, 04:13 PM	#11
Richiebsweet TheGangGreen.com Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Jersey & Georgia Posts: 418 vCash: 2000	The JETS are playing the base defense that gets the job done.

11-28-2006, 08:34 PM	#12
Ambrose Starter Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 130 vCash: 2000	Ok. . . all together this time. The most commonly used and basic 3-4 line up the Jets have used this year is to have both Hobson and Thomas on the los at the snap with Thomas with his hand down-- it looks like a 5-2 then or depending on where Hobson is a 4-3. At other times Thomas may be stangin up at the los. Rarely will you see the Jets in what appears to be a 3-4 with only three guys on the line with their hand down. In some ways the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3 is a matter of semantics. Since Thomas is on the line much of the time he looks like a D end instead of a LB. If the DE/LB (like Thomas) can be effective in all situations -- run, pass coverage, pass rush -- the 3-4 gives the defense more flexibility. The only other real difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3 are the gap assignments which are usually more varied and intricate in a 3-4. When everyone was griping and moaning about the 3-4 they acted like there were only three defensive players on the line most of the time. This isnt the case. Usually -- except in obvious long passing situations there will be 4 guys (3 d lineman and one LB) on the line. As the guys we have have gotten better at playing their assignments and been able to implement an increasingly intricate system of looks, coverages and blitzes, the defense's performance has improved.

11-28-2006, 09:42 PM	#13
Long & Winding Rhode TheGangGreen.com Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 393 vCash: 2100	I've noticed BT standing up a lot, and since they list him as the 4th lineman I would say we are at least a hybrid, if not a base 3-4.