[NYJetFan37]

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Is it time to worry yet Whiteshoewillie?

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[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by NYJetFan37

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Is it time to worry yet Whiteshoewillie?

It passed the House by a 409-2 margin, and passed on a voice vote in the Senate. The President has promised to sign it. Yup, I'd say it's about time to worry.


Fortunately, the only online betting that I do - an occasional weekend of horse betting - received an exemption from the ban.

Hehehe. . . . .

[NYJetFan37]

Originally Posted by Sundayjack

It passed the House by a 409-2 margin, and passed on a voice vote in the Senate. The President has promised to sign it. Yup, I'd say it's about time to worry.


Fortunately, the only online betting that I do - an occasional weekend of horse betting - received an exemption from the ban.

Hehehe. . . . .

GFY

And there is the hypocrisy of republicans

Betting online ruins families, but betting on horsies is ok

[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by NYJetFan37

GFY

And there is the hypocrisy of republicans

Betting online ruins families, but betting on horsies is ok

What about "409-2" tells you that this is "republican" hypocrisy. Hmmm??


Look, I'm with FirstTimeCaller on this - legalize it all and tax it, if you must (as abhorant as that taxing concept is for me to type).

There are real good reasons for a horse betting exemption. American companies; American jobs. Horse betting typically involves smaller bets. Sundayjack said so. All good reasons.

[Jetfanmack]

Welcome to the Prohibition part 2 with bookies and underground poker games going on everywhere. I still don't think it will end up being more than an inconvenience, but I am slightly worried.

[NYJetFan37]

Originally Posted by Sundayjack

What about "409-2" tells you that this is "republican" hypocrisy. Hmmm??


Look, I'm with FirstTimeCaller on this - legalize it all and tax it, if you must (as abhorant as that taxing concept is for me to type).

There are real good reasons for a horse betting exemption. American companies; American jobs. Horse betting typically involves smaller bets. Sundayjack said so. All good reasons.

LOL 409-2 to pass the PORT SECURITY BILL. Voting against the bill would be political suicide.

Who would want: "BLAH BLAH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, HE VOTED AGAINST THE PORT SECURITY BILL TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY AGAINST THE TERRORIST" or "BLAH BLAH DOESN'T HAVE HIS PRIORITIES STRAIGHT, HE VOTED AGAINST THE PORT SECURITY BILL BECAUSE HE FELT ONLINE GAMBLING WAS A MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE THAN THE SAFETY OF THIS COUNTRY" in an ad against them next time they are up for election

I have no problem with taxing the Poker industry, Poker Companies have no problem with taxing the poker industry. Republicans have a problem with taxing the poker industry because it doesn't give them (Bill Frist) the ability to say that they care about family values because they stopped online gambling!

Oh and the only reason Horse racing wasn't banned was because they got some powerful lobbyist and I'm sure republicans love to wager on ponies too.

[NYJetFan37]

Originally Posted by Jetfanmack

I still don't think it will end up being more than an inconvenience, but I am slightly worried.

The two biggest poker sites online are closing the doors to American players and you still believe this is nothing more than an inconvenience?

[Jetfanmack]

Originally Posted by NYJetFan37

The two biggest poker sites online are closing the doors to American players and you still believe this is nothing more than an inconvenience?

Didn't read the pokerstars part of it. We'll see. I'm more worried than before, but I'm sure there will be ways around it. There alway are other ways.

[NYJetFan37]

Originally Posted by Jetfanmack

Didn't read the pokerstars part of it. We'll see. I'm more worried than before, but I'm sure there will be ways around it. There alway are other ways.

It's going to take a miracle at this point, and the ways around it will probably be a pain in the ass (setting up an offshore bankaccount) I can't believe these companies are just rolling over

[Jetfanmack]

Originally Posted by NYJetFan37

It's going to take a miracle at this point, and the ways around it will probably be a pain in the ass (setting up an offshore bankaccount) I can't believe these companies are just rolling over

You still have to hold out hope that eventually, they will find a way around it.

[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by NYJetFan37

Oh and the only reason Horse racing wasn't banned was because they got some powerful lobbyist and I'm sure republicans love to wager on ponies too.

Yes. Could be that. Could also be that horse betting is legal in every state, whereas card playing for money is illegal in all but gambling casinos.

We ought not pretend legislating gambling is a new concept, and we certainly ought not pretend that it is a Republican concept. If you want to be angry at Republicans for genuine issues, I'll give you a whole bunch. This is just misdirected ire. But go with it, if you like.

[NYJetFan37]

Originally Posted by Sundayjack

Yes. Could be that. Could also be that horse betting is legal in every state, whereas card playing for money is illegal in all but gambling casinos.

We ought not pretend legislating gambling is a new concept, and we certainly ought not pretend that it is a Republican concept. If you want to be angry at Republicans for genuine issues, I'll give you a whole bunch. This is just misdirected ire. But go with it, if you like.

And why is Horse racing legal in every state?

Say it with me now:

LOBBYISTS!

Tell me what is the difference between putting $5k on Black and $5K on David's Delight?

I am angry at Republicans (mainly Frist) for sneaking the online gambling ban into a port security bill knowing it would never get passed in the senate (they wouldn't even give it the time of day) I am fed up with the entir egovernment, Democrats/Republicans are both corrupt, no one gives a shit about the American public anymore, it's all about what lobbyist group puts the most money in your pockets. I made an income off online poker, and now I'm relegated to $8 an hour again, yes Republicans have done some worse shit than this, but it GREATLY effects me

[EcKo151]

^Well you mentioned those 2 sites...So Full Tilt, Absolute, Paradise and Doyle's Room are available for now? Not sure when and if they will close...

I loved it because it gave me some extra spending money, I didn't attempt to make it a job since i'm only 19 and wasn't satisfied with the bankroll I could contribute, so I just stuck to winning a few hundred every few months and cashed it out accordingly...

Sounds like your a very good player...So MAYBE try a casino on a regular basis, but again, i'm not sure how you play and just like the online style better or whatever...

[NYJetFan37]

Originally Posted by NYJ EcKo151

^Well you mentioned those 2 sites...So Full Tilt, Absolute, Paradise and Doyle's Room are available for now? Not sure when and if they will close...

I loved it because it gave me some extra spending money, I didn't attempt to make it a job since i'm only 19 and wasn't satisfied with the bankroll I could contribute, so I just stuck to winning a few hundred every few months and cashed it out accordingly...

Sounds like your a very good player...So MAYBE try a casino on a regular basis, but again, i'm not sure how you play and just like the online style better or whatever...

I'm only 20 so casino is out of the question, and I was no where near a very good player, solid, but not very good, but made enough and felt I was finally turning the corner. Casinos won't work because A) I would probably give off a shit load of tells B) 30 hands an hour playing in a casino, 700 hands an hour playing online, BIG DIFFERENCE

[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by NYJetFan37

And why is Horse racing legal in every state?

Say it with me now:

LOBBYISTS!

Tell me what is the difference between putting $5k on Black and $5K on David's Delight?

I am angry at Republicans (mainly Frist) for sneaking the online gambling ban into a port security bill knowing it would never get passed in the senate (they wouldn't even give it the time of day) I am fed up with the entir egovernment, Democrats/Republicans are both corrupt, no one gives a shit about the American public anymore, it's all about what lobbyist group puts the most money in your pockets. I made an income off online poker, and now I'm relegated to $8 an hour again, yes Republicans have done some worse shit than this, but it GREATLY effects me

So your thing isn't so much the "libertine paradise" idea as it is about supplemental income. Well, at least you're honest.

And, no, the legality of horse betting has nothing to do with lobbyists. That's a brand of crazy that fits the storyline, but doesn't match up as well with history. If there are lobbyists at work here, they are the casino gaming lobbyists, and not the horse industry lobby. Online horsebetting is a relatively small industry.

[NYJetFan37]

Originally Posted by Sundayjack

So your thing isn't so much the "libertine paradise" idea as it is about supplemental income. Well, at least you're honest.

And, no, the legality of horse betting has nothing to do with lobbyists. That's a brand of crazy that fits the storyline, but doesn't match up as well with history. If there are lobbyists at work here, they are the casino gaming lobbyists, and not the horse industry lobby. Online horsebetting is a relatively small industry.

So if horseracing Lobbyists aren't at work, tell me why the first bill that went through a few years ago fell through because it had Horseracing banned? And why this one doesn't have horseracing banned? Hell, the rep from Nevada pointed out the hypocrisy of this and had a vote to include horseracing betting in the bill, if you want to ban internet gambling lets ban ALL internet gambling, and as you know that was shot down also.

Oh no, I am pissed that these assholes keep spouting off "don't let the terrorist change our lives and take away our freedoms" and yet they are slowly doing that.

But yes, I am more pissed because the American Dream just died for me

[Sundayjack]

Originally Posted by NYJetFan37

Oh no, I am pissed that these assholes keep spouting off "don't let the terrorist change our lives and take away our freedoms" and yet they are slowly doing that.

No. You're angry because they closed a loophole in something that has long been illegal. The "freedom" that you think has been stolen, was stolen many decades before you started bluffing someone out of their Thursday lunch money.

[Miamipuck]

Please not a republican problem. That is complete and utter nonsense!

It was going to be passed whether every Dem voted Nay, like it or not. Why on earth with elections coming up risk voting no? This was not voting no on Poker Gambling et all. They were voting yes to the Port Securtiy bill, a must pass piece of legislation. They could not vote NO even if they wanted to. I know for fact many congressmen/women hated this BULLSH*T. They could do nothing about it.

Just because Frist is a moralizing, bible-thumping, cat killing, right-wing nutjob, a-hole, does not mean he is stupid. He knew they had to pass this port bill, which is why he attatched it. He tried to attach it to another must pass legislation, the DOD Appropriations bill, but the committee members told him "@#$% off"! He procedurially locked key people out of the discussion, made some back door deals and got this crap attatched. It was a Republican initiative, plain and simple. Who the hell are you kidding?

Granted the Dems were complicit by not actively fighting, but that is their way with everything lately. It if were not for the right-wing nutjob, REPUBLICAN voting base this legislation never passes this session of congress!

Why did he do this?

Because one of the house sponsers Representative Leach is from Iowa. Iowa's caucus/primary is of utmost importance to any Republican nominee for president, especially in 2008. Take a wild freaking guess who is stepping down from the Senate to run for president after this term................. give up?

Here is his campaign slogan taken from 2+2:

Imagine the following hypothetical commercial ad in support of Frist:

"Congress tried to do something about internet gambling for 10 years, but instead of doing anything, the online problem just exploded. Internet Gambling destroyed lives. People lost their house with a simple click of the mouse. Even children were becoming slaves to the online gambling addiction. Someone needed to do something, but who would do it? Who would step up and take on this difficult moral challenge? Frist would!

Vote for Frist--he'll get the job done!"

--Paid by the Christian Coalition, Supporters of Frist for President.