Did Tebow miss the block?

 
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:03 AM   #41
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I see him as more of a point guard, but he has to learn how to pass first
Perhaps, but my point was that he is totally out of place as a punt protector. Power forward is farther from the QB position than a point guard which is why I used that position as an example.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:05 AM   #42
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He made a mistake on that play, for sure. But a lot of people made a lot of mistakes yesterday, so it was just another in a long line of embarrassing plays from the Jets...

Having said that, I'm not going to just dismiss it as Tebow being "out of place" as a punt protector. By that logic, EVERYBODY is out of place in that position. Nobody grows up playing punt protector, you learn to play it when its asked of you. I don't know what walk-on scrub played that position for the Jets last year, but I'm willing to bet he never played it until Westhoff asked him too. Tebow probably acknowledges the mistake and will work not to do it again..

If the Jets lost by a touchdown I would be more angry, but considering it was mistake 1 out 5000 in that game, it gets lost in that shitshow of a performance from the New York Jets.
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He made a mistake on that play, for sure. But a lot of people made a lot of mistakes yesterday, so it was just another in a long line of embarrassing plays from the Jets...

Having said that, I'm not going to just dismiss it as Tebow being "out of place" as a punt protector. By that logic, EVERYBODY is out of place in that position. Nobody grows up playing punt protector, you learn to play it when its asked of you. I don't know what walk-on scrub played that position for the Jets last year, but I'm willing to bet he never played it until Westhoff asked him too. Tebow probably acknowledges the mistake and will work not to do it again..

If the Jets lost by a touchdown I would be more angry, but considering it was mistake 1 out 5000 in that game, it gets lost in that shitshow of a performance from the New York Jets.
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As the PP I think he should take responsibility for the block (fault is irrelevant)

The whole game was a dumpster fire however.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:47 PM   #44
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i think it was more play-design than Tebow. He took the man crossing his face, with the second rusher hidden from view looping behind him. Tebow's blocking responsibility would not have allowed him to simply ignore the guy crossing his face when there was no other (apparent) rusher.

By the time the second rusher appeared in the hole it was too late for Tebow to recognize, release his block, slide over and engage the new man.

Westhoff simply got outcoached on that one particular play. I mean, Westhoff is blunt and fiery and you could see on the sideline that he wasn;t ripping into Tebow. They were reviewing this pictures together to figure out what happened.

If Tebow had simply messed up on his assignment, Westhoff would have been pissed at him and letting him know about it.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:26 PM   #45
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i think it was more play-design than Tebow. He took the man crossing his face, with the second rusher hidden from view looping behind him. Tebow's blocking responsibility would not have allowed him to simply ignore the guy crossing his face when there was no other (apparent) rusher.

By the time the second rusher appeared in the hole it was too late for Tebow to recognize, release his block, slide over and engage the new man.

Westhoff simply got outcoached on that one particular play. I mean, Westhoff is blunt and fiery and you could see on the sideline that he wasn;t ripping into Tebow. They were reviewing this pictures together to figure out what happened.

If Tebow had simply messed up on his assignment, Westhoff would have been pissed at him and letting him know about it.
It was a stunt that they used to take advantage of Tebow's inexperience. But here is my question, where is the major scrutiny for Tebow in the media on that play. I think it's fair since they are stunk up the joint on Sunday. It when right up there with the Stephen Hill drop and Mark Sanchez's INT. I think he deserves it, and needs to perform to redeem himself.
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That's right on the money. Most backup QBs excel at every position on the team. Quite a few have worked their way up from the mail room to the QB position.
To be fair most backup quarterbacks can throw the ball to receivers and run a basic NFL offense.
Tebow is closer to being an NFL quality fullback than a QB, so he should learn to block.
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It was a stunt that they used to take advantage of Tebow's inexperience. But here is my question, where is the major scrutiny for Tebow in the media on that play. I think it's fair since they are stunk up the joint on Sunday. It when right up there with the Stephen Hill drop and Mark Sanchez's INT. I think he deserves it, and needs to perform to redeem himself.
I think the scrutiny is not there because it highlights the stupidity of judging a quarterback's viability by his ability to block on punt protection. He's there to run fakes.

Frankly, the line was too overrun anyway. They need to put the full protect on when he's back there. Teams are not giving up the block, they are giving up the return.
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To be fair most backup quarterbacks can throw the ball to receivers and run a basic NFL offense.
Tebow is closer to being an NFL quality fullback than a QB, so he should learn to block.
Micheal Robinson on the Seahawks is an example, he tried NFl QB and failed badly and made the transition to fullback. The was the QB for Penn State and won the Big 10 and was Offensive MVP of the Orange Bowl in 2005.
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