[Leicester Jet]

Originally Posted by GQSanchez

I don't know why people are broken up over the loss last night.

If the Jets made the playoffs it would have given the false sense of success to the fan base. Meanwhile, the infrastructure which needs to be replaced would have remained because you "can't fire them because they made the playoffs". Of course that's IF they made the playoffs.

The Jets need as high of a pick they can earn.

100% right! Making it to the playoffs with our roster would have been horrible and would have ended in a record defeat when we actually faced a good team.

We need all the picks we can get and as high as possible to turn this team around. Unfortunately, with the way the draft looks, we are probably stuck with Sanchez next season and that means one more dreadful season.

Could we be bad enough to get a top 5 pick in the following draft, when the QB's look a lot more talented? I damn well hope so! Merry Christmas!!!

[CaneJet]

Originally Posted by GQSanchez

The Jets need as high of a pick they can earn.

Yep. But more than that they need someone with a brain making the pick.

[46Defense]

Originally Posted by xxedge72x

Making the playoffs is pointless if you can't win a Super Bowl.

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Well you aren't going to win a Super Bowl with Sanchez so you might as well have shut down the season before the 1st game.

[46Defense]

Originally Posted by Leicester Jet

100% right! Making it to the playoffs with our roster would have been horrible and would have ended in a record defeat when we actually faced a good team.

We need all the picks we can get and as high as possible to turn this team around. Unfortunately, with the way the draft looks, we are probably stuck with Sanchez next season and that means one more dreadful season.

Could we be bad enough to get a top 5 pick in the following draft, when the QB's look a lot more talented? I damn well hope so! Merry Christmas!!!

If you want to lose out then Sanchez gives the team the best shot of getting a high draft pick.

[MDBigDog]

Good article. There was definitely lots of blame to go around.

For one thing, I didn't mind Tebow coming in the 3rd and short but when Sanchez makes two good throws in a row and is starting to get something going you don't put in Tebow. And if you do, get the right damn personnel in there. Even the announcers commented on that.

I am a Sanchez fan overall but not of what I've seen from him lately. The mistakes this week just looked bad. No pass rush, no receiver running wrong routes, just bad throws. Now some of that may be due to lack of chemistry with the receivers though that only gets you so far.

I do think the Jets have hurt Sanchez by all of the turnover on the offense, the lack of attention to the OL, and bringing in Tebow. That still doesn't give him a pass on what we've seen though I do believe he has had to put up with extra criticism just because he's playing in NY and for the Jets. For all I know they could have damaged him beyond repair and truly turned him into the next David Carr as another article I read talked about.

Here's my wish list for next year assuming he's still the QB (keep in mind I'm not saying these are reasons he played poorly, just what I think may get the best of him):

- No more Tebow - best for him and best for the Jets to part ways
- New QB coach - need to get someone in who can truly develop a QB as Cavanaugh hasn't done the job
- Keep Braylon & Keller. I'm 50/50 on Holmes. At least those will give him some consistency and people to work with. With Kerley and Hill (assuming he improves) that gives him some sort of supporting cast for now. If we can find an upgrade anywhere I'm all for it but these are all people he has some sort of chemistry with. Hell Braylon looked decent last night and went all out for a bunch of passes, despite the Seahawks assertion that his season was over due to the injury.
- Fix the OL - they need to be more consistent in both the running game and in keeping the QB off the ground
- Replace Sparano - I'm torn on this one. On the one side I'd like to see consistency on the other, the poor use of Tebow and the issues with getting the right personnel on the field has been maddening.
- Make the D truly dominant - yes they've played well and are hardly to blame for the loss but when you have a team pinned back and give up a 94 yard TD run to a RB (albeit a good one) with a banged up OL) that's a problem. Then when the O does get you the lead back you proceed to let the Titans march down the field and take it right back. Dominant defenses don't do that as consistently as we have this season (and last season)

Anyway, just my two cents.

[Sweet P]

Originally Posted by dr.velociraptor

Playing fine? Sanchez had 18 yards and an INT the first half...

He had just completed passes of 11 and 20 something yards....it was rediculous to pull him right then. No one knew what was going on....Commentators couldn't believe it. We had a mini drive going!

[Sweet P]

Originally Posted by MDBigDog

Good article. There was definitely lots of blame to go around.

For one thing, I didn't mind Tebow coming in the 3rd and short but when Sanchez makes two good throws in a row and is starting to get something going you don't put in Tebow. And if you do, get the right damn personnel in there. Even the announcers commented on that.

I am a Sanchez fan overall but not of what I've seen from him lately. The mistakes this week just looked bad. No pass rush, no receiver running wrong routes, just bad throws. Now some of that may be due to lack of chemistry with the receivers though that only gets you so far.

I do think the Jets have hurt Sanchez by all of the turnover on the offense, the lack of attention to the OL, and bringing in Tebow. That still doesn't give him a pass on what we've seen though I do believe he has had to put up with extra criticism just because he's playing in NY and for the Jets. For all I know they could have damaged him beyond repair and truly turned him into the next David Carr as another article I read talked about.

Here's my wish list for next year assuming he's still the QB (keep in mind I'm not saying these are reasons he played poorly, just what I think may get the best of him):

- No more Tebow - best for him and best for the Jets to part ways
- New QB coach - need to get someone in who can truly develop a QB as Cavanaugh hasn't done the job
- Keep Braylon & Keller. I'm 50/50 on Holmes. At least those will give him some consistency and people to work with. With Kerley and Hill (assuming he improves) that gives him some sort of supporting cast for now. If we can find an upgrade anywhere I'm all for it but these are all people he has some sort of chemistry with. Hell Braylon looked decent last night and went all out for a bunch of passes, despite the Seahawks assertion that his season was over due to the injury.
- Fix the OL - they need to be more consistent in both the running game and in keeping the QB off the ground
- Replace Sparano - I'm torn on this one. On the one side I'd like to see consistency on the other, the poor use of Tebow and the issues with getting the right personnel on the field has been maddening.
- Make the D truly dominant - yes they've played well and are hardly to blame for the loss but when you have a team pinned back and give up a 94 yard TD run to a RB (albeit a good one) with a banged up OL) that's a problem. Then when the O does get you the lead back you proceed to let the Titans march down the field and take it right back. Dominant defenses don't do that as consistently as we have this season (and last season)

Anyway, just my two cents.

Put this to bed. Sanchez will not start another game for the Jets. Otherwise I like all your other points.

[Wahoo]

"Sparano's comedic stylings" - now that's funny

[Acad23]

Originally Posted by xxedge72x

Making the playoffs is pointless if you can't win a Super Bowl.

Playing in the Super Bowl is pointless if you can't win.

Hey look....I just out-stupided you.

[evojoe67]

As much a piece of crap Sparano has been Rex let the cat out of the bag in his pressed that it was predetermined that Tebow would enter the game at that juncture.
That is where I wanted to jump through the TV screen and grab that toe sucking bastard by the throat and not let go until his eyes popped out.
Not that I needed any further proof but that is where I knew Rex must be fired after this HELL IN 2012 of a season.
I listened today how Beningo & Roberts cried about " staybility", how teams like Pittsburgh & the Giants haven't given up on coaches when fans were calling for their heads and how the Jets have had a revolving door of coaches the last 30+ years.
The difference they failed to mention between the Jets & the others is that those teams actually hired coaches who knew WTF they were doing.
Rex has shown nothing but incompetence when it comes to building and coaching any part of a team that is not defensive related. To be a HC you must hold players accountable and be a disciplinarian, neither of which he has ever shown he is capable of doing.
I'm done with this whole FO/CS. Changes have to be made or its more of the same circus going forward.

[JetsUK]

Originally Posted by soxxx

Im more confused why so many people are so upset? People had high expectations for no reason, The Jets are just going through a process, we peaked 2 years ago, are declining now, and will probably be back on the rise next year. Giants missed playoff in 09 and 10, after peaking in 08. Next season im expecting a rise again.

if we can pick up a serviceable QB that in itself will be a big boost to the team - even an average QB could mean an extra 3 or 4 wins.

[matt robinson 17]

Originally Posted by soxxx

Putting tebow in was a disgrace. You cant do that to your starting qb if he is playing fine up to that point,

No offense but is that why he threw 4 horrible int's?

[mr nyjet]

Originally Posted by 46Defense

The only reason Rhythm is talked about is because guys like Trent Dilfer hate Tebow and want to try to bring him into the discussion to say that somehow destroyed Mark Sanchez mentally.

This is the NFL, if you are that mentally fragile that you cave in because of the backup QB, then you really shouldn't be in the league in the first place.

yes, this!

[BleedJetsGreen1981]

Originally Posted by soxxx

Putting tebow in was a disgrace. You cant do that to your starting qb if he is playing fine up to that point,

This times ten billion. What the fuck are the Jets thinking of? How completely incompetent they are. Yes, Sanchez has been historically bad this season but, he is a Frankenstein monster that management created by not surrounding him with a a legit corp of receivers.

[matt robinson 17]

Originally Posted by mr nyjet

yes, this!

Chad Pennington had no problem with it for the Dolphins, Dilfer is a retard, and should kiss Ray Lewis on the lips for getting him a SB ring

[TexNYJ]

Originally Posted by soxxx

Putting tebow in was a disgrace. You cant do that to your starting qb if he is playing fine up to that point,

No, Sancho's mom shitting him out of her vag was the disgrace. That sorry motherfucker.

ANyone remember that goddamn Jets West bullshit??

[cdz12250]

We tried to tell you guys about Sparano.

[Zach]

1. I am not upset. Quite a few darksiders have seen it coming months ago - some, like me, even before the season started.

2. Paper-thin roster quality. Yes. Paper-thin. You lose with that kind of set up. I always hated Arsene Wenger even during Arsenal's heydays precisely because of that. If you concentrate the talent level up at the top like Jets are doing (at least in terms of salary cap) you get nowhere.

3. Trader Mike? Loser Mike! Of course, you can't put the WHOLE blame on T-Bomb, as a. the scouting department fouled it up and b. coaching staff failed to raise the kids up. But if you don't even get to have enough batch of prospects to try, how can you succeed? Your pressure to succeed with given kids increase astronomically with one pick traded away after another. That's a losing philosophy. That one is squarely on T-Bomb - no other way around it.

[Cman55]

Originally Posted by cdz12250

We tried to tell you guys about Sparano.

I remember quite well that a lot of Dolphins fans actually felt bad for us because they knew what was coming. Sometimes Jet Fans only see what they want to see.

[buddapaw]

Originally Posted by cdz12250

We tried to tell you guys about Sparano.

This times a million