AFC East Divisional Race

soxxx · 10-14-2012, 07:36 PM

The Patriots also have to deal with the Texans and 49ers down the stretch while the Jets get the Cardinals and Seahawks.

To me 10-6 will win this division. The Patriots honestly arent that much better and I see more losses for them down the line.

ArmandJ · 10-14-2012, 07:47 PM

Technically, the Pats are in first place. But that's because they won one more AFC game than we did.

Either way, if we beat them, we'll be in first. Beat Miami, and we're firmly in control of the division.

displacedfan · 10-14-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmandJ

Technically, the Pats are in first place. But that's because they won one more AFC game than we did.

Either way, if we beat them, we'll be in first. Beat Miami, and we're firmly in control of the division.

I think technically we have better division record since its 2-0 vs their 1-0. Who knows, either way we are in first/tied for first

soxxx · 10-14-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmandJ

Technically, the Pats are in first place. But that's because they won one more AFC game than we did.

Either way, if we beat them, we'll be in first. Beat Miami, and we're firmly in control of the division.

Actually division comes first right? it doesnt really make a difference though.

ArmandJ · 10-14-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedfan

I think technically we have better division record since its 2-0 vs their 1-0. Who knows, either way we are in first/tied for first

Yeah, it doesn't really matter. I was looking at the cbs nfl playoff race thing.

Antoni · 10-14-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 34miami23

No they don't mean jack, but the (irrelevant) point remains that the media will still portray the Pats as far and away the best team in the division despite an identical record.

A loss is a loss. 1 point or 3 points (as my team knows twice

) ... The pats seem somewhat vulnerable to me, but remain the champs until someone can take the belt.

I get what you're saying, but imo, its more than just "a loss is a loss". If it was as easy as teams having identical records, and therefore having the same amount of % of success in the future, then each team in the AFC East right now would have an equal chance of winning the division from this point on. Odds wise, would you give me +300 on the Pats winning the AFC East? (+300 on each team in the division, 25% each) Because in essence that's what you're arguing. And you'd be crazy to offer those odds.

Jake · 10-14-2012, 07:55 PM

Nah, blow it up. Hasn't looked good enough. What's the point?

Mantana Soss · 10-14-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JetBlue

at 3-3 the experts will all pick the Pats as a top 10 team in the league and the Jets as a laughing stock. but in the end, all that matters is that we are all tied for first.

To a degree it's still true.

The Pats are +51 points, we are -8, the Bills are -55.

I know you are what your record says you are, but the Pats are still winning 10 games this year.

soxxx · 10-14-2012, 08:21 PM

When braylon caught that TD, I got the most warmest feeling. First meetup with Patriots for Braylon since he dragged McCourty into the endzone.

displacedfan · 10-14-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by soxxx

When braylon caught that TD, I got the most warmest feeling. First meetup with Patriots for Braylon since he dragged McCourty into the endzone.

Was it Braylon's first TD since then also?

LongTimeJetsFan · 12-02-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lon Chaney

It's almost impossible to secure a division by week 13. That means that each team has played 12 games (with bye).

Team A needs to be 10-2 with all the other teams being 5-7 or worse. It's a highly unlikely scenario.

Of course, another team could be 6-6 but Team A would have to own a strangle hold on tiebreakers, which again is highly unlikely.

So it's week 13 and the Pats have locked up the division.

Nilton · 12-02-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

So it's week 13 and the Pats have locked up the division.

Well played.

Footballgod214 · 12-02-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

So it's week 13 and the Pats have locked up the division.

We have them right where we want them...

SufferingJetsFan · 12-02-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

So it's week 13 and the Pats have locked up the division.

Pats, Broncos and Falcons all locked up their divisions today. Impressive.

Today, Brady also locked up his 10th division title.....a new record. He passed Montana I believe.

It's so discouraging as a Jets fan. I keep thinking the Pats are going to start to slow up and it just never seems to happen.

Broadway Joey · 12-02-2012, 09:08 PM

[QUOTE]No team locks up the division that early. Not even the 14-2 Pats from 2 years ago did. I believe they clinched it week 15. Week 13 is to early.

[QUOTE]No team locks up the division that early. Not even the 14-2 Pats from 2 years ago did. I believe they clinched it week 15. Week 13 is too LATE

Fixed

NYJATW · 12-02-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SufferingJetsFan

Pats, Broncos and Falcons all locked up their divisions today. Impressive.

Today, Brady also locked up his 10th division title.....a new record. He passed Montana I believe.

It's so discouraging as a Jets fan. I keep thinking the Pats are going to start to slow up and it just never seems to happen.

I feel the exact same way. When Brady retires is when that day will come. We must just be patient.

nyjunc · 12-03-2012, 06:59 AM

as long as Brady is healthy NE will always win the division. we have to accept we are playing for 2nd against him.

The Notorious J.E.T.S · 12-03-2012, 07:02 AM

Amazing what a true franchise QB can do for a franchise.

Hopefully we'll find one in the next 50 years.

nyjunc · 12-03-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Notorious J.E.T.S

Amazing what a true franchise QB can do for a franchise.

Hopefully we'll find one in the next 50 years.

Brady isn't just a franchise QB, he's by far the best QB of his generation and a top 5 all time QB. Those guys don't come around often.

Lon Chaney · 12-03-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

So it's week 13 and the Pats have locked up the division.

Touche. But I did lay out the scenario in which it could happen and I was close

I guess a 9-3 Patriots team vs all other teams at 5-7 AND they have the tie-breaker?? Didn't see that coming.

What really amazes me is that 2 other teams (ATL, DEN) have secured their divisions and Houston has all but locked it up.

And virtually 5 out of 6 playoff spots have been determined in the AFC already.

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10-14-2012, 07:36 PM	#101
soxxx Totally Addicted Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,783 vCash: 685	The Patriots also have to deal with the Texans and 49ers down the stretch while the Jets get the Cardinals and Seahawks. To me 10-6 will win this division. The Patriots honestly arent that much better and I see more losses for them down the line.

10-14-2012, 07:47 PM	#102
ArmandJ Totally Addicted Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,222 vCash: 84	Technically, the Pats are in first place. But that's because they won one more AFC game than we did. Either way, if we beat them, we'll be in first. Beat Miami, and we're firmly in control of the division.

10-14-2012, 07:55 PM	#107
Jake Totally Addicted Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 12,663 vCash: 1401	Nah, blow it up. Hasn't looked good enough. What's the point?

10-14-2012, 08:21 PM	#109
soxxx Totally Addicted Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,783 vCash: 685	When braylon caught that TD, I got the most warmest feeling. First meetup with Patriots for Braylon since he dragged McCourty into the endzone.

12-02-2012, 09:08 PM	#115
Broadway Joey Undrafted FA Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 3 vCash: 500	[QUOTE]No team locks up the division that early. Not even the 14-2 Pats from 2 years ago did. I believe they clinched it week 15. Week 13 is to early. [QUOTE]No team locks up the division that early. Not even the 14-2 Pats from 2 years ago did. I believe they clinched it week 15. Week 13 is too LATE Fixed

12-03-2012, 07:02 AM	#118
The Notorious J.E.T.S Totally Addicted Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,797 vCash: 2000	Amazing what a true franchise QB can do for a franchise. Hopefully we'll find one in the next 50 years.