[Concerned_Citizen]

Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Lying yet again. I didn't drop the debate. I took time to point out that you continuously overstate the case, then lie and spin. I then proceeded to show once again how you did just that.

Scroll up a few posts and look at this one.....

Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

You are frakking delusional as have previous admitted as much:

Seriously dude, you're sad.

That is all that was in it. Dillusional, and sad.

Notice not ONE thing in that post had anything to do with the debate. just more insults.

Clearly the truth about Tebow being an attention whore got under your skin, so you try the condescending laugh tactic, and resort to silly names like "sunshine," "genius," and "cupcake" etc. A desperate attempt to get under my skin. usually the one to break out the condescending insults belittling the other guy is the one losing the debate, because they are trying to get personal. You just can't go without the insults. Makes you feel superior somehow... I remember second grade too.

Like I said, you are an angry little man. Then again, I kind of understand it. You went all in on Tebow, he failed miserably to live up to the hype and the overexposure he has a hand in getting himself into. now all you can do is whine and insult people.

Bullshit, you made it out to be like him walking out on the basketball court by himself, for no other reason than to say "Hey, I'm Tim Tebow and I'm back".

I'm well aware that he wasn't the guy that arranged the event.

No, what I said is that he didn't miss another opportunity for self promotion. Dude just looks like he's so in love with himself. He could have toned that down about himself, but he got cheesy about it because clearly the dude is in love with himself.

He definately knows how to strike while the iron is hot though. He'll never be more recognizable than he is now and he didn't miss a beat when his stock was at his peak.

Yeah, I think those that call him "ME-Bow" might have merit.

Again, you are full of shit. Tebow spent some time last offseason working with Noel Mazzone and Tom House at UCLA. Those sessions were off camera and he didn't do any interviews while in California

Yeah, he spent a whole two weeks at it. THAT will make someone into Tom Brady rather quickly.

In 2012, during the freaking season when he was winning games, guess when he gave interviews ? Post game and mid week leading up to the game. Same interviews that most other QBs give. That's it.

...and yet, even as a backup, he gave those kinds of interviews.

Wrong yet again. It's the age old tactic of having already proven my point, and demonstrated that you are a liar and you don't know wtf you are talking about, instead of wasting more time proving it again, instead, I laugh at your ass and call you out on it.

You're not laughing. There's nothing funny about Tebow's failure, and you're banging your head against it with stat sheets trying to convince yourself and the whole world that Tebow is actually a pretty good QB that can't get a shot.

Now you are really getting frakking stupid. The ORGANIZATION set up the damned press conference. What ? You think Tebow could just walk in and take over the field house and have it set up for a press conference ?

You constantly pointing out someone else sets up the events and he just knocks em down is missing the point completely.

He chose New York, NOT because he had a better shot at starting, but because it gave him more exposure off the field. ...a bigger platform. (What? He didn't like his chances against Gabbert as much as he did going against a guy who had gone to the AFC Championship and won 4 playoff games??)

So what if the organization and media sets it up? That isn't the point. He went along with ALL of it to promote himself and his brand. (As well and spread the word of his faith.) No getting around it, he wanted the attention.

Hey Genius, see where it's the NEW YORK JETS who set up the press conference ?

Missed the point again. Tebow didn't squander another opportinity to get in front of a camera to promote his position as a backup.

[quote]Hmmm, THE FRANCHISE wanted a press conference for TV. Oh, btw Genius, that "FRANCHISE" was the New York Jets.

But hey, what do you do ? You whine and bitch like a little girl and want to blame Tebow for it.

Not rough at all cupcake. What must be rough is you having to go through life knowing that Tebow was indeed the starter for an NFL team, that he has a winning record, and even has a playoff victory.

Really? *looks around, searches for the team Tebow starting for* Hmmm, it comes up empty....

*Searches for what this winning record gets him* (Finds that his record and a dollar got him a cup of coffee..... wondering why that didn't impress anyone to give him a starting job....) *searches* Oh yeah, he was carried to most of the wins and got past the Steelers on a lucky strike he normally misses. Yeah, no wonder nobody getting paid by the NFL is high on him.

...aint adding "context" to your records a bitch sometimes?

Regardless of what else might happen, that's a history that no one can erase, you even your ignorant ass.

Whose trying to erase it? All those great stats you post, when put into context simply keep you from revising history when trying to put most if not all of the Broncos success on Tebow's shoulders. I admit he has a role in that. Just nowehre near the magnitude you and Tebow's groupies try to make it.

Have a day Sunshine.

Oh, I am, I am there, kiddo.

[Demosthenes9]

[QUOTE=Concerned_Citizen;2720188]Scroll up a few posts and look at this one.....



That is all that was in it. Dillusional, and sad.


Again, a major problem is that you apparently don't know how to frakking read. Is English your second language or something ?

Let's go through it:

Here is YOUR post that I responded to:

Originally Posted by Concerned_Citizen

Or you can simply admit Tebow is a bit of an attention whore and has trouble saying, "No, i got work to do." I mean, really, when someone approaches him with these things, does he have to agree to them? You almost act like all this is accidental, that he's being ambushed by these events.

Dude is looking for as much exposure as possible. When his NFL career is over, he will still be out there in some capacity hamming it up in front of any camera in the same zip code. It's what he does, that's who he is. nothing wrong with it as long as it isn;t dividing a locker room or running counter productive to his team, but I think it is.

Notice the part that I took the time to highlight in RED


Now, my reply that you are crying about:

Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

You are frakking delusional as have previous admitted as much:

Seriously dude, you're sad.

Notice not ONE thing in that post had anything to do with the debate. just more insults.

Ummm, except the part about me highlighting a part of your post and then ADDRESSING IT DIRECTLY in my post. Proving that you were once again INCORRECT and stating something false.

Clearly the truth about Tebow being an attention whore got under your skin, so you try the condescending laugh tactic, and resort to silly names like "sunshine," "genius," and "cupcake" etc. A desperate attempt to get under my skin. usually the one to break out the condescending insults belittling the other guy is the one losing the debate, because they are trying to get personal. You just can't go without the insults. Makes you feel superior somehow... I remember second grade too.

Clearly, what got under my skin is your continuing propensity to LIE about stuff. Call me what you will, but I don't like LIARS. I don't like talking to them. I don't like debating them. Why ? Because it's pointless, as they have no regards for the truth.

You CC, are a flat out liar.

Like I said, you are an angry little man. Then again, I kind of understand it. You went all in on Tebow, he failed miserably to live up to the hype and the overexposure he has a hand in getting himself into. now all you can do is whine and insult people.

Ummm, 8-5 with a playoff victory. That's not a failure at all Sunshine.

I'm well aware that he wasn't the guy that arranged the event.

No, you weren't. You thought he just walked out there by himself.

No, what I said is that he didn't miss another opportunity for self promotion. Dude just looks like he's so in love with himself. He could have toned that down about himself, but he got cheesy about it because clearly the dude is in love with himself.

Oh, no, he got cheesy. The horror of it. Doesn't matter that fans at Florida were worried about the surgery. Just like it apparently didn't matter that fans at Florida were really concerned with whether he would go pro after his Junior year, or return to Florida.

He definately knows how to strike while the iron is hot though. He'll never be more recognizable than he is now and he didn't miss a beat when his stock was at his peak.

Sure he does. The question though is whether he goes out of his way to get in front of the cameras (which he doesn't), or whether he takes advantage when the opportunities present themselves, which he does.

Yeah, I think those that call him "ME-Bow" might have merit.

You "thinking" is a large part of the problem. Since you've been here, you have demonstrated too much capability in that department.

Yeah, he spent a whole two weeks at it. THAT will make someone into Tom Brady rather quickly.

You missed the context of the point while wallowing in your ignorance. You were talking about how he did something different this year by going out to AZ and keeping a low profile. I pointed out that he did the same type of thing last year, you know, "while the iron was hot", when he went out to UCLA to train. No fanfare, no interviews. Just training.

...and yet, even as a backup, he gave those kinds of interviews.

Actually, last year, it was actual press conferences with questions afterwards, just like every other starter does. This year, he answered questions from reporters who were hanging out at his locker after practice. Just like other NFL players do.

You're not laughing. There's nothing funny about Tebow's failure, and you're banging your head against it with stat sheets trying to convince yourself and the whole world that Tebow is actually a pretty good QB that can't get a shot.

I am laughing. And I don't need to convince myself that Tebow is a good QB, I know he is.

You constantly pointing out someone else sets up the events and he just knocks em down is missing the point completely.

No, it's not missing the point at all. It's refusing to allow you to try and ignore the point and spin the discussion.

He chose New York, NOT because he had a better shot at starting, but because it gave him more exposure off the field. ...a bigger platform. (What? He didn't like his chances against Gabbert as much as he did going against a guy who had gone to the AFC Championship and won 4 playoff games??)

So >? Again, frequency and distribution/amplitude. I guess your ignorant about this one as well ?

So what if the organization and media sets it up? That isn't the point. He went along with ALL of it to promote himself and his brand. (As well and spread the word of his faith.) No getting around it, he wanted the attention.

When the new bosses say "Go give this Press Conference", guess what you do ? You go out and give the press conference.

Missed the point again. Tebow didn't squander another opportinity to get in front of a camera to promote his position as a backup.

Actually, he got up in front of the Press and talked about being excited to be a JET. You know, seeing as how he was newly acquired by the team in a "blockbuster" trade (news wise).

Really? *looks around, searches for the team Tebow starting for* Hmmm, it comes up empty....

*Searches for what this winning record gets him* (Finds that his record and a dollar got him a cup of coffee..... wondering why that didn't impress anyone to give him a starting job....) *searches* Oh yeah, he was carried to most of the wins and got past the Steelers on a lucky strike he normally misses. Yeah, no wonder nobody getting paid by the NFL is high on him.

...aint adding "context" to your records a bitch sometimes?

Of course, you casually forget the what was it ? 4 throws of over 40 yards earlier in the game ? Or the 20+ points that he put on the board with those passes ? Or the running TD that he scored ? Or the 5 scoring drives that he led PRIOR to the game winning TD in OT.


Yeah, "context" is a bitch isn't it sunshine ?

Whose trying to erase it? All those great stats you post, when put into context simply keep you from revising history when trying to put most if not all of the Broncos success on Tebow's shoulders. I admit he has a role in that. Just nowehre near the magnitude you and Tebow's groupies try to make it.

That's your opinion, and as has been noted, it's highly suspect as it comes about due to you "thinking", which is something you aren't too adept at.

Oh, I am, I am there, kiddo.

There ? There ? Based on your posts, I'd say that you aren't "there", rather, you are permanently out to lunch.

[icicle1906]

[QUOTE=Concerned_Citizen;2720188]Scroll up a few posts and look at this one.....



That is all that was in it. Dillusional, and sad.

Notice not ONE thing in that post had anything to do with the debate. just more insults.

Clearly the truth about Tebow being an attention whore got under your skin, so you try the condescending laugh tactic, and resort to silly names like "sunshine," "genius," and "cupcake" etc. A desperate attempt to get under my skin. usually the one to break out the condescending insults belittling the other guy is the one losing the debate, because they are trying to get personal. You just can't go without the insults. Makes you feel superior somehow... I remember second grade too.

Like I said, you are an angry little man. Then again, I kind of understand it. You went all in on Tebow, he failed miserably to live up to the hype and the overexposure he has a hand in getting himself into. now all you can do is whine and insult people.



I'm well aware that he wasn't the guy that arranged the event.

No, what I said is that he didn't miss another opportunity for self promotion. Dude just looks like he's so in love with himself. He could have toned that down about himself, but he got cheesy about it because clearly the dude is in love with himself.

He definately knows how to strike while the iron is hot though. He'll never be more recognizable than he is now and he didn't miss a beat when his stock was at his peak.

Yeah, I think those that call him "ME-Bow" might have merit.



Yeah, he spent a whole two weeks at it. THAT will make someone into Tom Brady rather quickly.



...and yet, even as a backup, he gave those kinds of interviews.



You're not laughing. There's nothing funny about Tebow's failure, and you're banging your head against it with stat sheets trying to convince yourself and the whole world that Tebow is actually a pretty good QB that can't get a shot.



You constantly pointing out someone else sets up the events and he just knocks em down is missing the point completely.

He chose New York, NOT because he had a better shot at starting, but because it gave him more exposure off the field. ...a bigger platform. (What? He didn't like his chances against Gabbert as much as he did going against a guy who had gone to the AFC Championship and won 4 playoff games??)

So what if the organization and media sets it up? That isn't the point. He went along with ALL of it to promote himself and his brand. (As well and spread the word of his faith.) No getting around it, he wanted the attention.



Missed the point again. Tebow didn't squander another opportinity to get in front of a camera to promote his position as a backup.

Hmmm, THE FRANCHISE wanted a press conference for TV. Oh, btw Genius, that "FRANCHISE" was the New York Jets.

But hey, what do you do ? You whine and bitch like a little girl and want to blame Tebow for it.



Really? *looks around, searches for the team Tebow starting for* Hmmm, it comes up empty....

*Searches for what this winning record gets him* (Finds that his record and a dollar got him a cup of coffee..... wondering why that didn't impress anyone to give him a starting job....) *searches* Oh yeah, he was carried to most of the wins and got past the Steelers on a lucky strike he normally misses. Yeah, no wonder nobody getting paid by the NFL is high on him.

...aint adding "context" to your records a bitch sometimes?



Whose trying to erase it? All those great stats you post, when put into context simply keep you from revising history when trying to put most if not all of the Broncos success on Tebow's shoulders. I admit he has a role in that. Just nowehre near the magnitude you and Tebow's groupies try to make it.



Oh, I am, I am there, kiddo.

Dude, we get it. You don't like Tebow. Why are you wasting your time beating a dead horse everyday? If you truly dislike him so much give it a rest man.