[nyjunc]

Originally Posted by BrowningNagle

I overlooked '89, sorry and thanks for correcting me. Either way, the Steelers had much far, far more success with Cowher prior to 1998, than the Jets have had with Ryan.

The rest of your post is silly - because once again you are trying to prove that Rex is good, by pointing out how terrible the Jets' history has been. Irrelevant to the discussion and frankly irrelevant all together.

keep in mind how bad the AFC was in those days, Cowher never beat a team as good as 2010 NE in his postseason career. Pitt was dominating a bad division, getting home playoff games and losing at home in the playoffs.

Actually you posted how Pitt was prior to Cowher, why am I not allowed to counter that w/ the facts of the Jets prior to Rex?

If we had Cowher and he did the same things our fanbase would be calling for Woody to fire Cowher.

In that 1992-1997 span Cowher never won a road playoff game.

they were just 5-3 at home in postseason and 0-3 on the road/neutral site.

[Barcs]

Originally Posted by rinvesto

Coach involved in picking GM accd to presser. If that is true, accountability is not what it should be. New GM should have total authority over every facet of team

What makes you think he won't? Keeping Rex for a year isn't exactly asking the world, or having him relinquish his power majorly.

[BrowningNagle]

Originally Posted by nyjunc

keep in mind how bad the AFC was in those days, Cowher never beat a team as good as 2010 NE in his postseason career. Pitt was dominating a bad division, getting home playoff games and losing at home in the playoffs.

Actually you posted how Pitt was prior to Cowher, why am I not allowed to counter that w/ the facts of the Jets prior to Rex?

If we had Cowher and he did the same things our fanbase would be calling for Woody to fire Cowher.

In that 1992-1997 span Cowher never won a road playoff game.

they were just 5-3 at home in postseason and 0-3 on the road/neutral site.

Sure I mentioned Pittsburgh prior to Cowher, briefly to gain perspective. But it's not the main BASIS of my argument!! I like to think the tangible results are what constituted my argument. I could've left perspective out all together and the argument looks like this:

--Prior to 1998, when the Pittsburgh example occurred, Cowher missed the playoffs only once (1998) after making it 6 straight times with 4 division titles and 1 AFC Championship title.

Even THEN he wasn't allowed a say in who his new boss would be like Rex Ryan who has zero division titles, missed the playoffs each of the last 2 seasons and 2 out of his 4 years as H.C...

Junc you love to argue but you might as well stop going down this path because its pointless. Rex is half the coach Cowher ever was.

[nyjunc]

Originally Posted by BrowningNagle

Sure I mentioned Pittsburgh prior to Cowher, briefly to gain perspective. But it's not the main BASIS of my argument!! I like to think the tangible results are what constituted my argument. I could've left perspective out all together and the argument looks like this:

--Prior to 1998, when the Pittsburgh example occurred, Cowher missed the playoffs only once (1998) after making it 6 straight times with 4 division titles and 1 AFC Championship title.

Even THEN he wasn't allowed a say in who his new boss would be like Rex Ryan who has zero division titles, missed the playoffs each of the last 2 seasons and 2 out of his 4 years as H.C...

Junc you love to argue but you might as well stop going down this path because its pointless. Rex is half the coach Cowher ever was.

Yep, did so in an incredibly weak era for the AFC(and AFC Central) and as the AFC started getting stronger he stopped winning the division and making the playoffs.

Rex took a rookie and 2nd year QB to championship games, he defeated better teams in the div rd than Cowher ever beat in postseason but yeah he's not half the coach Cowher is. The funny thing is if Cowher was here and had those same results and this was 1998 or 1999 you'd be calling for him to get fired.