[patfanken]

Originally Posted by CJLang

It would look like and be a dickhead move if the Jets voided a trade (measley 7th rounder) to get this guy, then turned right around and picked the guy up as a free agent.

No it wouldn't. In fact it would be a smart move IF.....the only reason he couldn't pass his physical was his health.....AND all he needs is time in order to get healthy.

If that's the case then the Jets should sign him for the $700K put him on PUP. At best he comes back healthy mid season and the Jet get an upgrade to their OL for the last half of the season. At worst they IR him and work hard to get him ready for next season, and then if healthy he'd like be better than anyone they can draft. The end result is the Jets upgrade the OL AND save a draft pick.

However if the reason he failed his physical was because he wasn't interested enough to get in shape......nevermind.

[Footballgod214]

Originally Posted by CervezaVerde

Bad knees suck in regular life but they are devastating for 350 lbs football players. Just ask Kris Jenkins. Otah is likely done. Austin Howard, you are our only hope...

Howard is #77....you can see him briefly in this clip from camp...he's a big boy

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[Axel3419]

Originally Posted by patfanken

If that's the case then the Jets should sign him for the $700K put him on PUP. At best he comes back healthy mid season and the Jet get an upgrade to their OL for the last half of the season. At worst they IR him and work hard to get him ready for next season, and then if healthy he'd like be better than anyone they can draft. The end result is the Jets upgrade the OL AND save a draft pick.

So it comes down to his motivation and whether he actually wants to be an NFL starter, which is something hard to judge without knowing a player intimately...

I would go for it, but the Jets aren't always exactly rational.

[greenbeanz]

Originally Posted by CJLang

It would look like and be a dickhead move if the Jets voided a trade (measley 7th rounder) to get this guy, then turned right around and picked the guy up as a free agent.

It would not look bad at all. He has been CUT. Meaning he is the property of no one. They don't feel he is worth anything at this point.

I think we would be dumb not to do it if the reason was that he was not in shape. Put him on the pup list, make the fat fuck work out and diet, and once he passes we have a better option than hunter.

If its effort, than fuck him. We all know how that works ex: gholston, v

[FriendlyGiantsFan]

Originally Posted by CJLang

It would look like and be a dickhead move if the Jets voided a trade (measley 7th rounder) to get this guy, then turned right around and picked the guy up as a free agent.

Give me back my Jake Ballard, you bastard!!!

[abyzmul]

Originally Posted by CJLang

It would look like and be a dickhead move if the Jets voided a trade (measley 7th rounder) to get this guy, then turned right around and picked the guy up as a free agent.

It would actually look like something the Patriots would do. So I agree.

[CJLang]

Originally Posted by FriendlyGiantsFan

Give me back my Jake Ballard, you bastard!!!

The Pats didn't trade for Ballard, then give him back becasue he couldn't pass the physical, then pick him back up when the Giants waived him.

If the Jets feel he can help them, then they should have kept for awhile longer. They got inside info into the health of this guy that no other team in the league has. So if they were to bring him back in, I think it would be pretty sketchy.

I would feel this no matter what team did it.

[CJLang]

Originally Posted by abyzmul

It would actually look like something the Patriots would do. So I agree.

See, I knew I was right.

[FriendlyGiantsFan]

Originally Posted by CJLang

The Pats didn't trade for Ballard, then give him back becasue he couldn't pass the physical, then pick him back up when the Giants waived him.

If the Jets feel he can help them, then they should have kept for awhile longer. They got inside info into the health of this guy that no other team in the league has. So if they were to bring him back in, I think it would be pretty sketchy.

I would feel this no matter what team did it.

I'm actually just busting your balls. It's funny to me that signing an injured FA was something you considered a dickhead move. The Patriots signed an injured player en route to IR; if signing Otah would "smell" then signing Ballard reeks.

[Elijah]

Originally Posted by FriendlyGiantsFan

I'm actually just busting your balls. It's funny to me that signing an injured FA was something you considered a dickhead move. The Patriots signed an injured player en route to IR; if signing Otah would "smell" then signing Ballard reeks.

I personally don't see much wrong with signing Otah. If the Panthers desperately wanted him away from the Jets then they could keep him. Cutting someone means that his old contract, and everything that he went through contractually, is void and he can start fresh.

The Ballard move was different in pretty much every way. The Patriots claimed him off waivers and therefore picked up his old contract. However, the Giants took a risk much like the Panthers did by waiving Ballard and what the Patriots did was 100% fair game. Just like it would be 100% fair if the Jets signed Otah.

Also, I don't want to derail this thread, but why is your signature only about the Patriots when it's not even a Patriots forum?

[LongTimeJetsFan]

The idea that it would be shitty of the Jets to pick him up now is stupid. The Panthers could have kept him or tried to get value out of someone else. Obviously they felt there was no value in keeping him, regardless of the failed trade attempt with the Jets.

At this point he's fair game for anyone to pick up. The failed trade has no bearing what so ever on who picks him up at this point, the Jets included.

Obviously it's going to take some time before he is ready to play football, if ever. The Jets trade attempt was clearly only good under the condition that they felt he was ready to play much sooner. Basically, if he was ready to play NOW, it was worth a 7th rounder to the Jets. Since he's not, he may be worth a PUP spot to the Jets if they want to wait and see if he is healthy at some point.

[CJLang]

Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

The idea that it would be shitty of the Jets to pick him up now is stupid. The Panthers could have kept him or tried to get value out of someone else. Obviously they felt there was no value in keeping him, regardless of the failed trade attempt with the Jets.

At this point he's fair game for anyone to pick up. The failed trade has no bearing what so ever on who picks him up at this point, the Jets included.

Obviously it's going to take some time before he is ready to play football, if ever. The Jets trade attempt was clearly only good under the condition that they felt he was ready to play much sooner. Basically, if he was ready to play NOW, it was worth a 7th rounder to the Jets. Since he's not, he may be worth a PUP spot to the Jets if they want to wait and see if he is healthy at some point.

It's not stupid. What's stupid is your continuing assumption that only your opinion is valid.

[AbdulSalam]

Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

The idea that it would be shitty of the Jets to pick him up now is stupid. The Panthers could have kept him or tried to get value out of someone else. Obviously they felt there was no value in keeping him, regardless of the failed trade attempt with the Jets.

At this point he's fair game for anyone to pick up. The failed trade has no bearing what so ever on who picks him up at this point, the Jets included.

Obviously it's going to take some time before he is ready to play football, if ever. The Jets trade attempt was clearly only good under the condition that they felt he was ready to play much sooner. Basically, if he was ready to play NOW, it was worth a 7th rounder to the Jets. Since he's not, he may be worth a PUP spot to the Jets if they want to wait and see if he is healthy at some point.

+1 ^


Guy is a FA, anybody who wants this out of shape lineman is free to go get him - including the NYJ. only a moron would think it would be ethically "wrong" to aquire otah now. it might be a miserable football decision, but not unethical.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Originally Posted by CJLang

It's not stupid. What's stupid is your continuing assumption that only your opinion is valid.

Seems to me that you're the one making assumptions here.

Let's keep it on topic though. If you want to continue this discussion PM me.

[abyzmul]

And CC me!