[championjets69]

Originally Posted by sec314

Champ, all I was saying was the jets/colts games were horrible back then in comparing last Sunday and I backed it up with 3 of 4 games in a 2 year period. That's all I was saying. Where does Marino and the quality of the division come into it. You missed my point. Are you saying Marino was good because our division stunk?

Yes that Dannie would never have achieved those records if us/the Pats/Colts/Bills all stunk to high heaven during his career. The same applies to 9-6 games etc, etc, etc

[championjets69]

Originally Posted by Section 227, Row 5

I totally agree. Complaining to the Jets Front Office or responding to their survey emails is like talking to a telephone pole. Their surveys have been freaking worthless, IMO, from day one and all the way thru.

So I'm afraid the ONLY message they hear is when thousands walk away from the UD and even the Lower PSL Sections. Just walk away. Which I guarantee is going to happen this spring. This franchize is a bigger mess than we ever imagined it would become.

Here's what I tell the office the next time I call for an upgrade: "I want to know when and how this management team plans to make us a winning football team. Until then, I won't pay for anything less than Row One Sideline Uppers, so move me now or I'm gone."

Well during the Hess era I passed out flyers to boycott Hess gas to NYJ fans as they enter the stadium @ gate A. So instead of BSing in this forum start a movement to embrass WJ if U & the other complainers have the guts. U know the old adage nothing ventured nothing gained. U R aware at this moment as I see it with ALL the players we need that means U have to have faith for 7 to 10 years before we are again true contenders. I will just give U some of the players required

QB
RB
WRs
OLman
TE
DLMan who can scare the opposing QB
LBers

[championjets69]

Originally Posted by Section 227, Row 5

I totally agree. Complaining to the Jets Front Office or responding to their survey emails is like talking to a telephone pole. Their surveys have been freaking worthless, IMO, from day one and all the way thru.

So I'm afraid the ONLY message they hear is when thousands walk away from the UD and even the Lower PSL Sections. Just walk away. Which I guarantee is going to happen this spring. This franchize is a bigger mess than we ever imagined it would become.

Here's what I tell the office the next time I call for an upgrade: "I want to know when and how this management team plans to make us a winning football team. Until then, I won't pay for anything less than Row One Sideline Uppers, so move me now or I'm gone."

Also U may have not wanted to dig into the how incompetant the NYJ organization is but I was not fooled & posted over & over again about it but your listening ears were not on I guess. Instead U call me pessimisstic among other names. So maybe one of these days you will stop smelling the NYJ catnip & wake up & smell the roses.

[sec314]

Originally Posted by championjets69

Yes that Dannie would never have achieved those records if us/the Pats/Colts/Bills all stunk to high heaven during his career. The same applies to 9-6 games etc, etc, etc

Right, sure buddy. Go back to your cave. Will let you know when to come out again in the spring.

[championjets69]

Originally Posted by sec314

Right, sure buddy. Go back to your cave. Will let you know when to come out again in the spring.

Actually U know MHO of U is your eyes & ears are totally closed when it come to the NYJs. If you think I am incorrect on Dannie why not do a total W-L on us, Colts, Bills, Pats & then U may just understand what I am saying. lets hope that occurs

[Jerseyboyisback]

The Week 16 San Francisco 49ers-Seattle Seahawks game on Sunday, Dec. 23 will be played at 8:20 PM ET on NBC's "Sunday Night Football", the NFL announced today.

The San Diego Chargers-New York Jets game, originally scheduled for Sunday night, will move to 1:00 PM ET on CBS and the New York Giants-Baltimore Ravens game will move to 4:25 PM ET on FOX.


If that makes anyone happy that game is now at 1pm and not a night game! I like it alot better....but night games are fun!

[sec314]

it makes me happy. I love 1pm games. Now lets hope we win Monday and the steelers and Bengals lose so we have a big game at home. I think we suck and don't think we are going to the playoff, but as a STH, I just want a meaningful home game in December and it could happen.

[alleycat9]

man december night games suck a fat one....

[JetsFan#1]

AFC East champions with records from 1984-1999 when Marino retired. 1987 was the strike season and 1993 he missed most of the season with the achilles injury. The Bills went to 4 straight Super Bowls in the 80's and 90's so I would think that would mean they were pretty good even though they lost all four.


1984

Miami Dolphins

14–2–0

Lost Super Bowl XIX



1985

Miami Dolphins

12–4–0

Lost AFC Championship Game



1986

New England Patriots

11–5–0

Lost AFC Divisional Playoffs



1987

Indianapolis Colts

9–6–0

Lost AFC Divisional Playoffs



1988

Buffalo Bills

12–4–0

Lost AFC Championship Game



1989

Buffalo Bills

9–7–0

Lost AFC Divisional Playoffs



1990

Buffalo Bills

13–3–0

Lost Super Bowl XXV



1991

Buffalo Bills

13–3–0

Lost Super Bowl XXVI



1992

Miami Dolphins

11–5–0

Lost AFC Championship Game



1993

Buffalo Bills

12–4–0

Lost Super Bowl XXVIII



1994

Miami Dolphins

10–6–0

Lost AFC Divisional Playoffs



1995

Buffalo Bills

10–6–0

Lost AFC Divisional Playoffs



1996

New England Patriots

11–5–0

Lost Super Bowl XXXI



1997

New England Patriots

10–6–0

Lost AFC Divisional Playoffs



1998

New York Jets

12–4–0

Lost AFC Championship Game



1999

Indianapolis Colts

13–3–0

Lost AFC Divisional Playoffs

[championjets69]

Originally Posted by Jerseyboyisback

The Week 16 San Francisco 49ers-Seattle Seahawks game on Sunday, Dec. 23 will be played at 8:20 PM ET on NBC's "Sunday Night Football", the NFL announced today.

The San Diego Chargers-New York Jets game, originally scheduled for Sunday night, will move to 1:00 PM ET on CBS and the New York Giants-Baltimore Ravens game will move to 4:25 PM ET on FOX.


If that makes anyone happy that game is now at 1pm and not a night game! I like it alot better....but night games are fun!

Just proves that even the powers to be in the NFL think both us & the Chargers stink

[championjets69]

Well a few hours ago I received a call from my rep offering me "Happy Holidays". So I thanked him for the greetings & wish him Happy Holidays in return & I told him if he sees Woody to tell him from a STH since 65 that they still stink & Woody should get qualified people into the organization at all levels

[championjets69]

Originally Posted by sec314

it makes me happy. I love 1pm games. Now lets hope we win Monday and the steelers and Bengals lose so we have a big game at home. I think we suck and don't think we are going to the playoff, but as a STH, I just want a meaningful home game in December and it could happen.

How do U know that when they play the game it will have "meaning" to use your words

[sec314]

I guess you really don't read other people's posts fully, you just form your opinion on what you think the person means? In my post I said " Now lets HOPE we win Monday and the steelers and Bengals lose so we have a big game at home" In addition, I said I know we suck. I can't make it any clearer. Do you need help in understanding what the word Hope means? See, I actually go to the games, I have an emotional investment. I don't but tickets to say I am a STH since XX amount of years and then sit on my high horse and act like the my shit don't stink.. I buy tickets because I love football. I want a reason to go..

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[championjets69]

Originally Posted by sec314

I guess you really don't read other people's posts fully, you just form your opinion on what you think the person means? In my post I said " Now lets HOPE we win Monday and the steelers and Bengals lose so we have a big game at home" In addition, I said I know we suck. I can't make it any clearer. Do you need help in understanding what the word Hope means? See, I actually go to the games, I have an emotional investment. I don't but tickets to say I am a STH since XX amount of years and then sit on my high horse and act like the my shit don't stink.. I buy tickets because I love football. I want a reason to go..

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When it comes to the NYJs I never use the word hope since they have been losers now for 43 years & hanging by a hair in making it 44 years

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Originally Posted by championjets69

Cmon now when the Colts were in our division the only team that had anything was Miami as the other 4 teams just plain flat out stunk

The Bills went to 4 Super Bowls in that era - the early 90's. Wrong again Champ.

[championjets69]

Originally Posted by Joe Willie White Shoes

The Bills went to 4 Super Bowls in that era - the early 90's. Wrong again Champ.

Whoopee a exception to the rule but I noticed there was zero notice by U about the NYJs during that period

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

Originally Posted by championjets69

Well during the Hess era I passed out flyers to boycott Hess gas to NYJ fans as they enter the stadium @ gate A. So instead of BSing in this forum start a movement to embrass WJ if U & the other complainers have the guts. U know the old adage nothing ventured nothing gained. U R aware at this moment as I see it with ALL the players we need that means U have to have faith for 7 to 10 years before we are again true contenders. I will just give U some of the players required

QB
RB
WRs
OLman
TE
DLMan who can scare the opposing QB
LBers

7 to 10 years????? How do come up with that ridiculous amount of time? Teams rebuild quickly in the NFL. Nobody knows anything past 2-3 years from now. There is no fing way you know what the Jets will be like 3-4 years from now let alone 10 years.

How do you justify or back up that statement? Who will be the coach and GM 10 years from now? The QB?

10 years ago was the 2002 season and Pennington had just emerged as a QB, the Jets won the division and made the playoffs and thrashed Manning's Colts 41-0 in the first round.

How could you predict what the 2012 Jets would look like back in 2002?

[championjets69]

Originally Posted by Joe Willie White Shoes

7 to 10 years????? How do come up with that ridiculous amount of time? Teams rebuild quickly in the NFL. Nobody knows anything past 2-3 years from now. There is no fing way you know what the Jets will be like 3-4 years from now let alone 10 years.

How do you justify or back up that statement? Who will be the coach and GM 10 years from now? The QB?

10 years ago was the 2002 season and Pennington had just emerged as a QB, the Jets won the division and made the playoffs and thrashed Manning's Colts 41-0 in the first round.

How could you predict what the 2012 Jets would look like back in 2002?

Duh it calls experience especially the NYJs who I have followed now for 50 some odd years. With the amount of quality players they need 7/10 years is really in my HO a early estimate. To become a winner U need a top notch organization from top to bottom & hopefully your NYJ glasses are not dark enough to see that the NYJs are anything but a top notch organization cause if they were we would have secured 6 or more SB wins by now

Just thinks a STHer who bought tix for the next 7 upcoming season & bought 4 UD tix U will have pissed away 35Gs to watch stinky FB. If it goes to 10 years then U up the ante to 50Gs

[sec314]

Champ, this whole ridiculous argument started when I said the Jets/Colts played a lot of 9-6 games back in the 90's before Peyton. How you made it about Marino and etc... should be studied by scholars and such. You are in another universe. You are about one thing, the Jets have sucked since you saw them win the Super Bowl. That's all you have to say over and over and over regardless of what is posted. You are beyond getting old and most time you are wrong... see above.

[CBG]

In keeping with the thread,,,,I am so happy I did not renew my tickets or buy a psl,,,,