[101_GANG_GREEN_101]

Pretty much, I think we've seen this story with the Jets before not too long ago, but maybe we can make the right decisions this time

[Combustible Rextible]

On one hand, Norv Turner has a good track record from 2007 - 2011 where the Chargers were a top 5 offense by points scored. On the other hand, the Chargers had LT, Gates, and Rivers (before Rivers turned into whoever Rivers is these days), and the AFC West was pretty lean during those years. He also has a lousy record against the Pats so I think that weighs against him. I'm not saying he couldn't do a good job here, but its not a sure shot.

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Originally Posted by Combustible Rextible

On one hand, Norv Turner has a good track record from 2007 - 2011 where the Chargers were a top 5 offense by points scored. On the other hand, the Chargers had LT, Gates, and Rivers (before Rivers turned into whoever Rivers is these days), and the AFC West was pretty lean during those years. He also has a lousy record against the Pats so I think that weighs against him. I'm not saying he couldn't do a good job here, but its not a sure shot.

His track record goes back much further than the Chargers ... check out his wiki.

[BeastBeach]

I know I've mentioned that Rex dissed Norv last year but I should point out that Rex and Sparano used to trade barbs and I always got the idea they didn't care too much for each other and apparently they got over that.

A big chunk of money could make Norv forget. Then again, I doubt Sparano had as many options as Norv will have.

[101_GANG_GREEN_101]

Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

His track record goes back much further than the Chargers ... check out his wiki.

Norv helped Alex Smith get back on the right track to save his career as well. He's perfect for this team. Bringing him in would remind me of the Texans / Saints / Packers and how they brought in a coordinator to save their team on that side of the ball. Notice how two have raised the Lombardi Trophy and one may do so at the end of the season.

HC that can get his players to respond, and a coordinator to help fix issues on that side of the ball that the HC cannot do.

[Combustible Rextible]

Originally Posted by LongTimeJetsFan

His track record goes back much further than the Chargers ... check out his wiki.

I know he’s been around for awhile. Looking at his career, it seems that If Turner has talent on offense, he can do something with it. If he doesn’t, he won’t. As OC of the Cowboys in the early 90s, he walked into a team with Emmit Smith, Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin and won so that’s a positive, and he did well with some talented players on the Chargers. The rest of his time with the Redskins, Raiders, Dolphins, and 49ers were not necessarily remarkable, but not sure if anyone could have done well in a couple of those situations.

[FOURTHANDLONG]

No OC with Credibility will come here until Sanchez is gone.

[Hobbes3259]

Originally Posted by 101_GANG_GREEN_101

Chargers have been nothing short of a disappointment with Norv as their HC. More than likely he'll get fired this season and will look to take a coordinator job next year. Similar to Wade Phillips.

Let's admit it the Sparano thing hasn't quite worked out. Should the Jets look to replace him with Norv Turner? Bring in the QB coach along with Norv and rebuild this offense hopefully with a new GM also. The only reason why I wouldn't think it would work is because of that exchange of words between the two last season, Rex saying he would have a few rings with San Diego's roster.

The positives here though, it returns a familiar Air Coryell offense, similar to Schottenheimer's stupid hybrid bullshit offense whatever, but I'm sure less complex and Norv is a far better play-caller than Schottenheimer.

Sanchez given his contract situation will be here another year, so we can see how that works out get some more skill-players in the draft and maybe we can get this offense rolling. Next off-season grab a QB in the NEXT draft, not this upcoming one.

I think this could be a step in the right direction, credibility to the offense and with a new general manager (new guy outside of the conference) we can get this team back into the playoffs.

I made this point at Sundays game. Absolutely. The real question is, will the organization that sacrificed Sanchez to Schotty for 3 years, lose Sparano?

[No Fly Zone]

Originally Posted by Noam

Shotty's friends tweeted that the reason he decided to quit as OC was because Sanchez limited the offense. If Sparano loses his job it will be because of Sanchez. Why would any credible OC come here with Sanchez still the QB? Having Sanchez as QBwill make any OC look bad.

Sanchez essentially possesses the worst traits of all QBs in football. Not only does he make mistakes like Tony Romo but when not making mistakes he cannot complete a pass unless his receiver is uncovered and the pocket is kept 100% clean. Essentially he is mistake prone but has no upside. He can only play well when he plays a defense like the Bills which sells out of the run, does not put pressure on Sanchez and leaves his receivers uncovered. But then I bet any junior college QB could be successful under those circumstances. He cannot read defense, cannot make line calls, cannot look art more than 1/3 of the field, panics when under pressure and runs blindly until something hits him and the list could just go on. There is no player in football that lowers the level of play of his teammates more than Sanchez.

There is no way another OC would want this job unless he is given a somewhat serviceable journeyman QB.

I don't disagree with your assessment of Sanchez but when you have the opportunity to get a guy like Norv as OC (not HC) you do it. I'm sure the Jets FO has finally figured out Sanchez isn't that answer and next year will be his last here. You get Norv in the fold and have him help evaluate and train up the next QB. They've never had a good OC to take a young QB and get him ready for the NFL. Its about time they do things the right way and have the guy on staff to do so.

[BeastBeach]

Originally Posted by Hobbes3259

I made this point at Sundays game. Absolutely. The real question is, will the organization that sacrificed Sanchez to Schotty for 3 years, lose Sparano?

You crowed on and on about how just losing Schotty automatically made Sanchez a top QB.

Now that it is clear that isn't the case, and Sanchez still looks like shit it appears you have modified your opinion to conform to your desired result.

I'm shocked!

[Jerseyboyisback]

Originally Posted by FOURTHANDLONG

No OC with Credibility will come here until Sanchez is gone.

I really think Sanchez needs a different type of offense 4 wr sets and more passing. I think norv will fix sanchez! We need a whole new Offensive system! Jets have never been a pass first team!

[LongTimeJetsFan]

Originally Posted by FOURTHANDLONG

No OC with Credibility will come here until Sanchez is gone.

Money talks. Woody says he's in it to win and has more than enough to retain Turners services if he so desires.

[FOURTHANDLONG]

Originally Posted by Jerseyboyisback

I really think Sanchez needs a different type of offense 4 wr sets and more passing. I think norv will fix sanchez! We need a whole new Offensive system! Jets have never been a pass first team!

Sanchez is not good for the Jets anymore. There is no OC that can fix him in this city at this point.

[101_GANG_GREEN_101]

Originally Posted by Hobbes3259

I made this point at Sundays game. Absolutely. The real question is, will the organization that sacrificed Sanchez to Schotty for 3 years, lose Sparano?

I hope when we bring in a new GM that he'll notice how bad this offense has been and that it needs to be reconstructed. This would require Sparano to be let go from the get-go. I think this is the only way this were to happen. If Tanny is back again next season, I think we might keep the same guys here

Originally Posted by FOURTHANDLONG

Sanchez is not good for the Jets anymore. There is no OC that can fix him in this city at this point.

We are not bringing in Norv to help fix Sanchez. He can surely try, but Norv should have his hands in the new "franchise" QB bucket. 2014. Teddy Bridgewater. I am on the bandwagon.

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

You crowed on and on about how just losing Schotty automatically made Sanchez a top QB.

Now that it is clear that isn't the case, and Sanchez still looks like shit it appears you have modified your opinion to conform to your desired result.

I'm shocked!

Don't fool yourself bro - Sparano is still better than Brian Schotteheimer. This more-so points out the issue is Sanchez though. Having Schottenheimer here wouldn't fix anymore, only make it worse

[Hobbes3259]

Originally Posted by Royal Tee

Are you Shilling for Shotty?
U keep emphasizing that he quit when everyone knows in reality he was kicked out the door but was graciously allowed to deem it as a resignation so He may peruse I mean eh... pursue other offers.

Originally Posted by BeastBeach

You crowed on and on about how just losing Schotty automatically made Sanchez a top QB.

Now that it is clear that isn't the case, and Sanchez still looks like shit it appears you have modified your opinion to conform to your desired result.

I'm shocked!

Let's be clear, Sparano is an upgrade over Schotty. Not even a rational question.

Name a team with more garbage at the other skill positions, with Holmes gone.

Hills a Rookie, with a pigskin allergy, and Kerley can only do so much, and Keller can't stay on the field.

Marks "3" picks Sunday were mostly the fault of other players....on the first he gets stuck in the chest as he throws the ball, and on the third he hit Schillens in the hands downfield...
The second, and the almost fourth were clearly his...


But, look at the situation, Clyde Gates....Chaz Schillens? Really..?

And, to finish, the fact that Powell is still not getting the majority of carries tells you all you need to know.

23 has played better of late, but has still been outplayed by Powell.

[BeastBeach]

Originally Posted by Hobbes3259

Let's be clear, Sparano is an upgrade over Schotty. Not even a rational question.

Name a team with more garbage at the other skill positions, with Holmes gone.

Hills a Rookie, with a pigskin allergy, and Kerley can only do so much, and Keller can't stay on the field.

Marks "3" picks Sunday were mostly the fault of other players....on the first he gets stuck in the chest as he throws the ball, and on the third he hit Schillens in the hands downfield...
The second, and the almost fourth were clearly his...


But, look at the situation, Clyde Gates....Chaz Schillens? Really..?

And, to finish, the fact that Powell is still not getting the majority of carries tells you all you need to know.

23 has played better of late, but has still been outplayed by Powell.

You could have just said "I'll never blame Sanchez because then I would have to *gasp* admit I was wrong"

[soxxx]

I say bring Norv in. Let him access the qb situation. If he feels he can fix Sanchez then allow him to do it, if not then go to greg or someone else.

[boozer32]

Originally Posted by 101_GANG_GREEN_101

Chargers have been nothing short of a disappointment with Norv as their HC. More than likely he'll get fired this season and will look to take a coordinator job next year. Similar to Wade Phillips.

Let's admit it the Sparano thing hasn't quite worked out. Should the Jets look to replace him with Norv Turner? Bring in the QB coach along with Norv and rebuild this offense hopefully with a new GM also. The only reason why I wouldn't think it would work is because of that exchange of words between the two last season, Rex saying he would have a few rings with San Diego's roster.

The positives here though, it returns a familiar Air Coryell offense, similar to Schottenheimer's stupid hybrid bullshit offense whatever, but I'm sure less complex and Norv is a far better play-caller than Schottenheimer.

Sanchez given his contract situation will be here another year, so we can see how that works out get some more skill-players in the draft and maybe we can get this offense rolling. Next off-season grab a QB in the NEXT draft, not this upcoming one.

I think this could be a step in the right direction, credibility to the offense and with a new general manager (new guy outside of the conference) we can get this team back into the playoffs.

Carolina, maybe Chicago, Philadelphia, Arizona, Detroit, Kansas City will all be looking for a head coach. Norv is better as offensive coordinator than head coach just like Wade Phillips. All I know Sparano better not come back and Cavanuagh also.

[boozer32]

Originally Posted by Jerseyboyisback

I really think Sanchez needs a different type of offense 4 wr sets and more passing. I think norv will fix sanchez! We need a whole new Offensive system! Jets have never been a pass first team!

You can't fix stupid. Sanchez is a moron plain and simple. His throws and decision making process is beyond stupid. I think Eva Longoria sucked his brains instead of something else.

[Mangolden Showers]

I'd rather Reid but I think that's unrealistic. I'm not so crazy about Norv as some of you guys but he'd be a huge improvement over Sparano. unless its a player like cj spiller please do not waste a top draft pick on a RB as someone suggested above, starting caliber backs are abundant compared to other positions.