[displacedfan]

Yeah Wilk has played really well.

[legler82]

Originally Posted by HardHitta

These 3-4 Linemen won't have beefed up stats and won't have much sacks.

Unless your name is JJ Watt.

[legler82]

Wilkerson has been solid but I will admit he played better last year.

[GriffDog]

I Love Wilkerson but we are terrible against the run and we haven't been able to get to the QB. Wilkerson needs to start getting some sacks maybe if he has some real OLB it would help him out...He is a young big player..we have to be able to figure out how to get production from him and coples

[HardHitta]

Originally Posted by legler82

Unless your name is JJ Watt.

I meant our Linemen, that guy on the other hand can do anything. He's a beast.

[legler82]

Originally Posted by HardHitta

I meant our Linemen, that guy on the other hand can do anything. He's a beasst.

We might need to come up with a different adjective for Watt than beast cause someone in this thread called Wilkerson a beast. They both can't be described the same way cause Watt is on a whole different level.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by DirtyThirty

I dont know what games yuo guys are watching, but the defensive line has been complete dog shit in the aspect of getting pressure on the quarterback. And theyve done a horrible job stopping the run all year. The inability to get pressure on the quarterback from our front seven is killing us. The d-line straight up sucks, and the linebackers are even worst. We have no pass rush and now, for the first time in the Rex Ryan era we can not stop the run.

Son.

Bruce Smith is once-in-a-generation type of talent, Ok? To expect his kind of production out of an ordinary 1st round pick is a sacrilege in itself.

(But then, JJ Watts looks like a legitimate 3-4 DE that threatens the QB on any given down. Maybe you do have a point.)

[DimsAllmighty]

I liked last night after being beaten by the screen play on a previous play, Wilkerson figured out what was going on another screen play and defended Foster well. If Schaub didn't throw the ball so high and Foster didn't have an amazing catch, then it could have been intercepted. Seriously Wilkerson has been playing well. I don't believe he is apart of the problem in the run defense. There was a few plays where I saw David Harris just run into the pulling guard and not shoot the gap which gave up big yards. Our linebackers just suck.

[HardHitta]

Originally Posted by legler82

We might need to come up with a different adjective for Watt than beast cause someone in this thread called Wilkerson a beast. They both can't be described the same way cause Watt is on a whole different level.

Wilder beast ? Destroyer of worlds ?

[metfan2987]

this is the first time in a while i can remember that I just really have no faith in our linebackers at all. I love Harris, a lot, but he really has been playing subpar this year so far. Definitely his worst season so far.

[Br4dw4y5ux]

Originally Posted by metfan2987

this is the first time in a while i can remember that I just really have no faith in our linebackers at all. I love Harris, a lot, but he really has been playing subpar this year so far. Definitely his worst season so far.

Watching the linebacker play this year is taking me back to 2003. That's Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones out there how can the run D be so bad?

[JoeWillie130]

I have to agree somewhat with the op. I don't expect Wilkerson to get to the passer like a 4-3 end or 3-4 olb but it wouldn't hurt if I saw him near a QB at some point. A good 3-4 end should be good for 7-8 sacks. Also we are the worst team in the league against the run so I don't want to hear people say how great he has been in that department. Sure most of the big runs are to the outside but i dont see him on weekly basis stuffing runners at the line. If i had to describe Wilkerson so far this year it would be average starter. That's not what I want out of a first rd pick who people call the best defensive pick in the Ryan era.

[RevisIsland10]

Originally Posted by JoeWillie130

I have to agree somewhat with the op. I don't expect Wilkerson to get to the passer like a 4-3 end or 3-4 olb but it wouldn't hurt if I saw him near a QB at some point. A good 3-4 end should be good for 7-8 sacks. Also we are the worst team in the league against the run so I don't want to hear people say how great he has been in that department. Sure most of the big runs are to the outside but i dont see him on weekly basis stuffing runners at the line. If i had to describe Wilkerson so far this year it would be average starter. That's not what I want out of a first rd pick who people call the best defensive pick in the Ryan era.

Couldn't have said it any better.

[The 1985er]

I guess the op expected Wilkerson to be a star and he's just not that at the moment. He's done a solid job thus far.

[Revis is your daddy]

Originally Posted by The 1985er

I guess the op expected Wilkerson to be a star and he's just not that at the moment. He's done a solid job thus far.

He's a second year player who was selected 30th. He also wants to compare him to someone who is the favorite to win DPOY right now. Wilk has played real well. He's not a star but I'm very happy with the pick as should everyone be.

[Harpua]

Originally Posted by JoeWillie130

I have to agree somewhat with the op. I don't expect Wilkerson to get to the passer like a 4-3 end or 3-4 olb but it wouldn't hurt if I saw him near a QB at some point. A good 3-4 end should be good for 7-8 sacks. Also we are the worst team in the league against the run so I don't want to hear people say how great he has been in that department. Sure most of the big runs are to the outside but i dont see him on weekly basis stuffing runners at the line. If i had to describe Wilkerson so far this year it would be average starter. That's not what I want out of a first rd pick who people call the best defensive pick in the Ryan era.

Richard Seymour must not have been a very good 34 DE then, because he only managed that range twice in his career. Well that, or you have no idea WTF you are talking about.

In the 34 it depends largely on waht is being asked of the end. Wade Phillips in Houston runs a very different scheme from the one Dick LeBeau does, who runs a diffent look than Rex and Rob Ryan. Houston lines thier lineman up over the gaps and expects penetration not gap cloging or eating up multiple blockers. Pittsburgh uses the 34 linemean mainly as space eaters and expects the linebackers to be the playmakers in thier D. Rex and Rob both run hybird fronts with looks that vary from the bear 46 D, to a 34 base, to a 43 in thier nickle packages.

Mo has been our most consistant Lineman against the run and in getting pressure. He needs to do more, but the lack of talent around him makes his job harder due to often facing multiple blockers. This is why we need Coples or someone else to step up and start producing more. The more lineman we have capable of making plays the more likely it is we get one on one blocking one someone that can make a difference.

[Barry the Baptist]

Originally Posted by HardHitta

Wilder beast ? Destroyer of worlds ?

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[BleednGreen247]

Originally Posted by RevisIsland10

Where has this guy been?!?! Did he play last night??

0 sacks in 5 games for a DE thats on the field for every single snap. He's in his second year and hes not a rookie like couples.

Some will say "hes an amazing run stopper" thank God he is. Instead of being 31st in the league against the run we would be 32nd.

Guy had been a HUGE disappointment this season...

You are a buffoon.

[InRevisWeTrust]

To inject a few more facts into this thread, via PFF:

- Wilkerson "has 21 stops on the season, which is the second most for all defensive linemen this year."

- In the positional ranking, Wilkerson is the 3rd highest rated 3-4 DE, behind only J.J. Watt and Calais Campbell.

- Wilkerson is essentially tied with Watt as the highest rated 3-4 DEs in the league against the run.

[Dierking]

Plus, he's patfanken's predraft binky.