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Old 04-29-2012, 08:21 AM   #81
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So you're telling me that DCs move their guys around to exploit matchups?

You don't say.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:01 AM   #82
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So you're telling me that DCs move their guys around to exploit matchups?

You don't say.
Oh, I know it's basic stuff, but there is a bit of a - no, let's be honest, a massive - learning curve in this particular sub-forum. Gotta give them a fighting chance.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:25 PM   #83
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Oh, I know it's basic stuff, but there is a bit of a - no, let's be honest, a massive - learning curve in this particular sub-forum. Gotta give them a fighting chance.
You don't seem to be understanding the words I'm typing, so here's another blogger's take. You directed us to consider the Eagles (currently the only left-handed starting quarterback), here's a blog entry from a few weeks ago, addressing the fact that their starting left tackle has injured his achilles :

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Written on March 30, 2012 by Kyle in Eagles
With the news that Peters tore his achilles the idea of Herremans shifting to left tackle popped up. However, some people are completely blinded in regards to Herremans moving over because he plays on the “blind side”. There are a couple of reasons why these people are wrong.

1. Precedent
-If putting your best player on the blind side was really the priority, why has Jason Peters been playing left tackle for Michael Vick over the past two and a half years? When Peters and Dunlap were out, the Eagles moved Herremans to left tackle and put Winston Justice at right tackle. Surely no one here is prepared to argue that Winston Justice is better than Herremans. The Eagles play their best tackle on the left side for a number of reasons and thats the way its always been and the way it should be.

2. Pass Rushers
-Do you know how many starting left handed QBs there are in the NFL? One. Michael Vick. The only other notable lefty is Tim Tebow. That means for the other 31 teams the left side of the line is the “blind side”. Teams put their best pass rusher on the right side of their defense because of this. They do not flip their defensive ends for one week only. Some players are more comfortable on their respective side and it changes their responsibilities on the line, teams simply won’t flip their players for one game. The left tackle has always and will continue to face the opposing team’s best pass rusher a majority of the time. Obviously there are a few exceptions (Charles Johnson most notably) but 24 of the top 30 players in sacks played a majority of their snaps on the right side of the defense (going against the left tackle). Obviously you’d like to negate the opposing teams best pass rusher so you put your best lineman on them. Logic’d.

3. “The Sight Side”
-Everyone makes such a huge deal about the blind side but what about the sight side? You don’t think having to watch a 270 pound man barrel down on you might throw a wrench into things? I don’t know about you but I’d more scared of the guy I could see gunning for me. And we all know how skittish Michael Vick can be in the pocket, pressure off the frontside really gets to him.

4. The Strong Side
-More often than not the right side ends up being the side the tight end lines up on, thus it is the strong side. Because of this you can afford the right tackle pass blocking help while limiting your offense less. So this means that if your right tackle struggles, you can help them more easily which suggests that your best tackle on the left side and put your second best tackle against the second best pass rusher where you can help them more easily. More logic’d.

I’m not saying Herremans will move but ruling it out simply because he plays the “blind side” is kind of silly.

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Now, before you go preaching that that blogger has no authority or credentials, you're right -- he has nothing we don't have. You obviously disagree, and based on your experience, you have shared that haven't observed what he has about the pass rush tendencies. That's fine -- just wanted some words that probably expressed it better in a specific context (because you don't seem to understand what I'm saying, and you once again explained what blind side is).
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The problem with that reasoning is that if the first season is looked at, he beat the others even more handily in passer rating (82) and YPA (7.98). So the critique of doing that would be the sample size being too small to declare Tebow statistically superior to others. The inclusion of the other games, to reach a total of 16 games for all, helps to level out the sample size.
I understand that he is evening the sample size, but it is also being selective and ignoring the amount of NFL experience and training. That is pretty much cherry picking, and would be similar to me naming half of 2010 for Sanchez and half of 2011, and going, "See! Beat that!" It's a bad comparison, and honestly there's no reason at all to even compare Sanchez to Tebow. They are different dudes, with a different style of play that will make each other better this season. What if we compare that to Tom Brady's first 16 starts, or Aaron Rodgers? They had plenty of time to groom and get developed by their teams before seeing any starting action. This plays a role, for Tebow as well. If Tebow had started all 16 games in his rookie year, you know for a fact his stats wouldn't be close to that.

But no, lets go along with the darksiders and diss our QB further by claiming first season in the NFL is the same as first 16 starts in the NFL. It's just one big joke with those guys.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:03 PM   #85
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we took a WR, HB/FB, and OL who all played in the option... to think that none of that had to do with tebow being on the team is a bit naive.
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we took a WR, HB/FB, and OL who all played in the option... to think that none of that had to do with tebow being on the team is a bit naive.
we took the best deep threat WR in the draft. we drafted a power HB, and an OG from the same team.

we added three guys who can play at the NFL level. If tebow wasn't here, all 3 guys would be assumed to help Mark Sanchez. but because Tebow is here, it's a conspiracy to help tebow.

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we are all here to help tim tebow.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:06 PM   #88
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we took a WR, HB/FB, and OL who all played in the option... to think that none of that had to do with tebow being on the team is a bit naive.
And yet still, the Jets haven't done anything to upgrade the gaping hole blocking the Tebow's blind side.
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we took a WR, HB/FB, and OL who all played in the option... to think that none of that had to do with tebow being on the team is a bit naive.
No, not naieve at all considering the number of colleges out there running Option offenses.
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Old 05-05-2012, 07:21 AM   #90
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we took a WR, HB/FB, and OL who all played in the option... to think that none of that had to do with tebow being on the team is a bit naive.
You might be on to something. Most teams wouldn't bother drafting 3 players just to help out their backup QB ... then again, most teams wouldn't waste a 4th round pick trading for a backup QB, either.
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