[stuartfl]

Originally Posted by 17a_tailgater

I'm sorry it was a week before preseason started.and when i asked the jets why a new comer got free parking and didn't have to take the preseason but a 30 plus sth had to cough it up,i was told it was too late to print preseason fix for him. really ? could do electronic tix?


its all a scam

and btw they could never ever add a pal upstairs.everyone know of the view personally or have heard about it.it would be tarped off like Jax

I wouldn't be surprised if they turned the upper prime seats into PSL's over the next few years... those are the only uppers that they the JETS could realistically do it with... The rest will be challenging to move.

[sec314]

Originally Posted by Section 227, Row 5

That's a good point. We can all feel better now about paying face for that Giants game.

We also get to see Tebow move the chains and tear the field up before El Guapo actually takes the field for the games that count, so that we can then watch the production drop to zero with mostly 3-and-outs.

Maybe these Preseason Games are a better watch than the Regular Seasons. I'm going to put my Preseasons on StubHub for $250 and list the regular ones for $25.

Umm, in favor of Tebow over Sanchez. I did not realize your name for our QB was not with love. We are in trouble if the worst throwing QB in the history of our sport is better then our current QB. Just saying. The price of tickets by November if the "J" man ( you can say El Guapo) is our QB should be the price of Met tickets for Wed. day game.

[stuartfl]

Originally Posted by J1 tailgate

Been following this thread for a while and have found it to be both informative and entertaining. I'm a 10 year sth who is the "proud" owner of a llez psl. I originally signed up for row 17 upstairs but bought the psl when the price was lowered. I am actually happy with my seats and have been able to justify the psl but yet feel that the Jets have me by the b...... As upper level seats get small upgrades via opportunity to purchase better parkin as well as some food discounts, I'm just happy when there is no ticket price increase as surely they can do that any time they please. Just my initial 2cents. Nice to be aboard.

Try not to worry about the "Freebies" the upper deck is getting and be happy as pig in sh*t with your great seats!!!

[GMCJETS]

Originally Posted by Jerseyboyisback

I would not buy a PSL from the Jets they did raise all of the PSL prices!! buy from a season ticket holder who doesnt want there tickets anymore or has to many PSL like me lol

Good luck!!

Thats my plan,someone who already paid the PSL in full who needs to bail. A friend of mine just sold his UD Giants tickets that way he walked away after paying the PSL in full.

Originally Posted by stuartfl

I wouldn't be surprised if they turned the upper prime seats into PSL's over the next few years... those are the only uppers that they the JETS could realistically do it with... The rest will be challenging to move.

All the UD seats suck, what dont you understand? None are worth a PSL.

[Section 227, Row 5]

Originally Posted by GMCJETS

Thats my plan,someone who already paid the PSL in full who needs to bail. A friend of mine just sold his UD Giants tickets that way he walked away after paying the PSL in full.

Yes, you will surely be able to buy a PSL as a resale (and not from the Jets at face). At a discount... this is a given. We discussed this many years ago and now the market we talked about is here.

The thing is, the PSL has to be paid off before the seller can sell it (And for the Jets to honor the transfer of ownership), so this is the tricky part. Also, the buyer will not be able to obtain financing on the purchase, like the original purchaser got. So this will be an anchor also to the seller, since he now needs to find someone with all cash. And, of course, such a buyer will want to use that as a bargaining chip to further diminish the price of the PSL, as in, "I have all cash do I want a better price from you if you want to sell this thing."

So yes, I agree with others and has been said all along, if somebody bought a PSL and knows he wants to go to the games and use his tickets forever and ever and will not be needing to sell at any time and for any reason, by all means go to the games and enjoy yourself.

But if you bought the PSL and for any reason... divorce, bad times, job relocation, illness in the family, sick and tired of paying for 3-13 seasons, etc., etc., then the PSL was a bad choice. I'm sure the NY marketplace is loaded with examples of both, so yes, a PSL should become available to you in the future and at far less then face if you're willing to wait for the right seller circumstances.

As for UD Primes going PSL, I've said all along I would have been more than willing to pay $1,000 or so for the front 4. The Giants were able to sell the UD Primes for $4,000 PSLs and the others in the UD for $1,000, believe it?

I know a guy (Giants fan) who paid $4,000 for 4 seats IN THE LAST ROW of a section on the visitor's side. He is stuck but good but still goes to the games and sits in the last freaking row. Unblievable.

[GMCJETS]

Somebody that wants to just walk away from a paid in full PSL is my target. The NYJETS should and would honor the transfer I have been a season ticket holder for 20+ years. This way I own the PSL and only pay for the current seasont tickets. Its happening as we speak JETS and GIANTS, many didnt realize they couldnt walk away and now cant afford to stay.

[Jerseyboyisback]

I have heard it all on here!!! Someone paying for a PSL than giving it away for free!! No way, I will sell my Season tickets to a broker or someone who wants the full season at face value before I or anyone would give a fully paid PSL away for free!

I have 8 PSL llez cost is 20000 total and season tickets are 10500 with 2 parking passes, I have no job right now and am getting my masters! I would never let the tickets go no matter how bad times are. I would sell to a broker if I couldn't pay for my tickets, but no way in hell would I or anyone just throw away a PSL. I know everyone here things PSLs are a waste but there is no way someone will buy it and then just give it away. They will at least request half back or something.

[GMCJETS]

Originally Posted by Jerseyboyisback

I have heard it all on here!!! Someone paying for a PSL than giving it away for free!! No way, I will sell my Season tickets to a broker or someone who wants the full season at face value before I or anyone would give a fully paid PSL away for free!

I have 8 PSL llez cost is 20000 total and season tickets are 10500 with 2 parking passes, I have no job right now and am getting my masters! I would never let the tickets go no matter how bad times are. I would sell to a broker if I couldn't pay for my tickets, but no way in hell would I or anyone just throw away a PSL. I know everyone here things PSLs are a waste but there is no way someone will buy it and then just give it away. They will at least request half back or something.

What you dont understand is this is happening. Those who cant afford this years PSL payment and or ticket fees cant walk away the NYJETS have them hostage. This happens when someone doesnt want to tarnish their credit.

[Jerseyboyisback]

I asked the jets what happens, they dont go after you they dont have your ss# people just forfiet what they paid and take a loss on what they paid. Doesnt effect credit report i thought about it but not worth it. Even still some will sell for money if its paid off. No one is gonna say hey gmc take my psl i cant afford the tickets. They will go to a broker and sell the season and figure out what to do for next year. If someone owes money your gonna still have to pay. Im sorry just dont see this happening!

[Section 227, Row 5]

Originally Posted by Jerseyboyisback

I asked the jets what happens, they dont go after you they dont have your ss# people just forfiet what they paid and take a loss on what they paid. Doesnt effect credit report i thought about it but not worth it. Even still some will sell for money if its paid off. No one is gonna say hey gmc take my psl i cant afford the tickets. They will go to a broker and sell the season and figure out what to do for next year. If someone owes money your gonna still have to pay. Im sorry just dont see this happening!

I agree with this and would be shocked if someone flat-out gave away a paid-for PSL. Not going to happen at any time.

But there are many shades of grey, and most PSLers are in the middle zone, having made payments on the PSL while forking up the money every spring for the mandatory purchase of the tickets. The most likely scenario for an exchange is, as the PSL becomes more and more paid down, a buyer approaches and says, "I'll take the damned thing (and your annual obligation to purchase all 10 games every year from now until eternity) off your hands, but I'm not giving you what you've already paid in." In this scenario, the guy who spent $15,000 on two $7500 PSLs may have already put in, say, $4,000 of the $15,000. The buyer will offer $11,000 (or less) and get the guy out of his misery. I can see this happening now and in years to come.

Then, some sort of arrangement has to be made in order to pay off the $11,000 that is owed. If the seller cannot pay it off in order to affect the transfer, both parties may have to physically go to the Jets Ticket Office, where the buyer forks over the $11,000 that the seller owes in exchange for the Jets (and the sell) to sign off on the exchange.

The whole thing sounds complicated and one of the many reasons why I chose to not entangle myself with this situation to begin with. Nobody knows what the future holds and the purchase of (in my case) 4 PSLs was IMO painting oneself into a corner. The above secnario is a lot like trying to sell a car in which you are "upside down." You owe more than it's worth and along comes a buyer, but there is a payoff. Now both buyer and seller have to go the local GMAC branch and settle up the purchase before GMAC will release the title with a "Lien Satisfied" stamp on it.

[GMCJETS]

I wasnt gonna post the details but my buddy said go ahead let the fans in denial know whats going on in the real world. A friend of mine was able to get a fully paid PSL for free on 2 seats. This company had 4 tickets and basically went out of business. They had no intentions or funds to pay for the upcoming season tix. The transfers were all done without a hitch and he got 2 season tickets in the PSL area for the price of admission, someone else got the other 2. Never say never guys. This isnt the first and wont be the last of this.

[JLJets]

Originally Posted by JLJets

I am a STH of 28 years. Since we moved to the new stadium, I've been completely dissatisfied with the stadium and the Jets lack of effort to make my game experience any better. On Feb 21, I sent a letter to the Jets indicating my dissatisfaction, telling them I am considering not renewing my tickets and asked if they had any plans to fix some of the problems.

Yes, many things can't be fixed, (like the distance from the UL) but many can. Of the dozen or so concerns I have with the stadium, several can be corrected, such as 1) Too many opposing fans at our games (since we don't sell out); 2) Price of my tickets went up over 50% in one year; 3) Two preseason games cost me $1500 for tickets no one wants, to see college players; 4) Access to the men's rooms in the UL are far worse than the old stadium (they said they would fix this but didn't); I'm getting older and can not transfer my tickets to my kids and grand kids; and 5) parking class system.

I chose the UL even though I had the ability to buy a PSL, because I liked my UL seats in the old stadium. Thank God I didn't, as I would really be stuck now. I sit in UL Prime, very near the 50, with four seats in row 10 and two more behind that.

In that letter I sent ten days ago, I gave them the opportunity to give me an indication some of these things are being addressed. I have received zero response. I expected as much, but I'm still disappointed.

I expect they really don't care about me leaving. Since my tickets are near the 50 yard line, they'll sell quickly. It wouldn't make sense to let an end zone STH move up, as they'd have trouble selling his seats. So, I expect they'll sell mine outright, contrary to what the sales reps are saying.

I haven't given them formal notice yet. I had to contact them because of the ACH withdrawal would have kicked in. Now, I have till April 1 to pay in full, so I'll make my final decision by then. But I'm 95% locked on this. The rep asked if I would share why I might give them up. After I was 5-6 reasons into the dozen I documented, she cut me off, saying thanks.

I'll always be an avid fan. I just expected much more out of the new stadium and very disappointed they're not making any effort to fix some of the things that are still fixable.

As I indicated in March, I have not renewed my tickets. Its a little painful, after 28 years, but the new stadium is not worth the investment. Its sad they did such a bad job, especially in the UL, but it is what it is so I'm walking away. Its not an emotional decision, just one that makes sense.

I sent a letter to the Jets owner in February, asking if they plan to fix any of the problems I noted (those that are fixable at this point - see some above) but I did not get a response, as expected.

As indicated above, I don't think they'll miss me. My seats are in upper prime, near the 50, in row 10 and will be easy to sell. Contrary to what they're saying, it doesn't make sense to let another STH move up, as they would have trouble selling those seats.

Again, I've been a fan since the 60's and always will be. Just no longer a season ticket holder. I'll pluck the games I want from resellers, pay a little more, but not to have to eat preseason, parking, or bad December games.

Had this been a great stadium, I would have stayed. It isn't, so its time for me to move on. I'm not implying others should take this same route, but for me, its time.

[GMCJETS]

Originally Posted by JLJets

As I indicated in March, I have not renewed my tickets. Its a little painful, after 28 years, but the new stadium is not worth the investment. Its sad they did such a bad job, especially in the UL, but it is what it is so I'm walking away. Its not an emotional decision, just one that makes sense.

I sent a letter to the Jets owner in February, asking if they plan to fix any of the problems I noted (those that are fixable at this point - see some above) but I did not get a response, as expected.

As indicated above, I don't think they'll miss me. My seats are in upper prime, near the 50, in row 10 and will be easy to sell. Contrary to what they're saying, it doesn't make sense to let another STH move up, as they would have trouble selling those seats.

Again, I've been a fan since the 60's and always will be. Just no longer a season ticket holder. I'll pluck the games I want from resellers, pay a little more, but not to have to eat preseason, parking, or bad December games.

Had this been a great stadium, I would have stayed. It isn't, so its time for me to move on. I'm not implying others should take this same route, but for me, its time.

I felt the same way and did he same thing. It doesnt make us any less of a fan. Many havent earned the right yet to ridicule others who have been supporting this team as long as we have. Good post.

[GrindHouse]

Originally Posted by GMCJETS

I wasnt gonna post the details but my buddy said go ahead let the fans in denial know whats going on in the real world. A friend of mine was able to get a fully paid PSL for free on 2 seats. This company had 4 tickets and basically went out of business. They had no intentions or funds to pay for the upcoming season tix. The transfers were all done without a hitch and he got 2 season tickets in the PSL area for the price of admission, someone else got the other 2. Never say never guys. This isnt the first and wont be the last of this.

The odds of the above scenario happening again are the same as somebody winning the Mega Millions!

[GMCJETS]

Originally Posted by GrindHouse

The odds of the above scenario happening again are the same as somebody winning the Mega Millions!

Never say never. You do realize the economy sucks. It did happen is what im saying. Remember when recently the NYJETS allowed certain STH to opt out of the pre-season. Many said that wouldnt happen and it did.

[Section 227, Row 5]

Originally Posted by GMCJETS

I wasnt gonna post the details but my buddy said go ahead let the fans in denial know whats going on in the real world. A friend of mine was able to get a fully paid PSL for free on 2 seats. This company had 4 tickets and basically went out of business. They had no intentions or funds to pay for the upcoming season tix. The transfers were all done without a hitch and he got 2 season tickets in the PSL area for the price of admission, someone else got the other 2. Never say never guys. This isnt the first and wont be the last of this.

All I can say is WOW! Not a likely scenario, as Grind says, but Wow.

You'd have to be a fool to pass that one up. You'd think the owner of the company would have at least tried to get 50 cents on the dollar for what he paid in.

What a score though. Owning a paid-for PSL without putting a dime into it. The guy could probaby flip it and make money!

[GrindHouse]

IMO, the best route to go would be to buy tickets during the off-season. I keep seeing many PSL seats going for face value and lower on Ebay. Even the Jets vs Pats game sold for face value a couple of weeks ago. I bought tickets to an away game for face value last week and would have paid a lot more if I would have waited till the season started. For some weird reason some brokers/Sth's sell their tickets for cheap during the off-season, I guess to recoup as much money as possible. So for anybody looking to go to games keep an eye on EBay, you can find some great deals.

[GMCJETS]

Originally Posted by GrindHouse

IMO, the best route to go would be to buy tickets during the off-season. I keep seeing many PSL seats going for face value and lower on Ebay. Even the Jets vs Pats game sold for face value a couple of weeks ago. I bought tickets to an away game for face value last week and would have paid a lot more if I would have waited till the season started. For some weird reason some brokers/Sth's sell their tickets for cheap during the off-season, I guess to recoup as much money as possible. So for anybody looking to go to games keep an eye on EBay, you can find some great deals.

E-Bay,StubHub,Craigslist,here and other NYJETS forums tickets can be had easily. No need to invest in a PSL or pay for pre-season. I will wait for a PSL deal like my buddy got or similiar. Its all good.

[17a_tailgater]

i need 6 fix or i would play the field.looking for 2 is easiest or 4 ok but to find 6 together is difficult using these avenues

[Jerseyboyisback]

Originally Posted by 17a_tailgater

i need 6 fix or i would play the field.looking for 2 is easiest or 4 ok but to find 6 together is difficult using these avenues

Very true!! 6 is hard and so is 3 and 5 when needed, esp together!