[xjets2002x]

My problem with Upshaw, and I think what they're trying to reiterate, is that you can't put a guy with those kinds of physical question marks in the top 20. If you do, you're really gambling with your job as a general manager.

If you take Upshaw with Nick Perry on the board, and Nick Perry goes on to have a far superior career, you have egg on your face.

I think Upshaw is going to be a durable, solid starter in this league, but I'm not going to bank my pass rush on him. At 17, you have to take a guy with more athletic upside, particularly when you have an athletically challenged linebacker group, like the Jets do.

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[Br4dw4y5ux]

Originally Posted by gsulli5861

Listened again to Casserly and Lombardi and both said Upshaw is a really good football player. There concerns are that he is short and could get engulfed by the tackle. They also said he likely won't be good in space. I could see him getting engulfed by the tackle but I don't see him spending alot ot time playing in space. We want this guy heading straight for the QB. Everywhere you look he'd headed to the Jet's, we'll see.

He's going to wind up inside or maybe strongside. He doesn't have the height, burst and escapability that's need to play ROLB in a 3-4.

To give you an idea:

Courtney Upshaw 6'2", 273 lbs, 4.8 40

Calvin Pace 6'4", 269 lbs, 4.75 40

Bryan Thomas 6'5", 269 lbs, 4.55 40

The Jets played Pace on the left side and Thomas on the right side. Upshaw doesn't really fit in either slot and if they had Pace and Upshaw opposite each other they'd be missing a speed rush completely.

[Johnny4]

I'm not an Upshaw guy. He played on a loaded D.

[nyjetsrule]

Originally Posted by Johnny4

I'm not an Upshaw guy. He played on a loaded D.

that is a terrible reason (by itself) to not want a guy.

[Johnny4]

Originally Posted by nyjetsrule

that is a terrible reason (by itself) to not want a guy.

Not the only, just the only one not stated so far. The team he played on made him look better than he was, I watched a bunch of games and he was rarely doubled. Too many good players on that side on the ball to do it. I think both Hightower and Barron will be better pro's. He'll be OK, but not a star and we need a star.