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  1. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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  2. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Denver leading the charge in Domestic Violence. Yeah, we were assaulted with Tim Tebow, does that count?
     
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    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    These are not the stats most fans are interested in. :D
     
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    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    Top position for arrests--WR. Not a shock with those divas.
     
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    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    @statjeff22 may point out that there are about twice as many receivers as running backs in the NFL, so running backs may be the real miscreants here.
     
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    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    LBs and CBs are next in line before RBs but yeah those guys are squirrelly.
     
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    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Teams have about as many LBs and CBs as they do WRs, so I think it's fair to compare total arrests for those groups. But nobody carries 6ish RBs.
     
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    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    What's the criminal record of Owners, GM's and Coaches? I suspect the data is very hard to find.
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Bob Kraft is A #1. Wrong state, but it still wotks.

     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Pretty pictures. As others have noted, standardization is key. I also find the comparison to the overall arrest rate less relevant than it might seem. Clearly football players will have far fewer arrests for white collar crime, but that's not what people care about - it's violent crimes and DUIs that get people worked up. How do arrest rates for those crimes compare to those for the general male population aged 20 to 35?

    Also, some of these are not independent - for example, Jacksonville has four disorderly conduct arrests that stem from one incident four months ago when four teammates got into a dispute about a $64,000 bar tab (yes, you read that correctly) that they believed was complimentary (which the web site thinks is spelled complementary). They paid the bill and no charges were filed. So is that one arrest or four? And should it even be counted when no charges are filed? Who knows.

    Finally, the 4.7% arrest rate number is somewhat misleading. There is a real survivor bias problem - people who are arrested might be more likely to be cut and not be in the league any more, so the proportion of current players who have ever been arrested is biased downwards (this presumably doesn't apply to stars, but certainly could to a backup offensive lineman). The correct way to calculate that number is prospectively, not retrospectively. Take all of the players who played in the NFL in 2013 (say), follow them for five years, and keep track of how many get arrested for different kinds of crimes. Standardize it by how long each of the players were actually in the league. Those would be a legitimate five-year arrest rate figures.

    A study a few years ago estimated that 40% of all black men and 30% of all white men have been arrested by the time they are 23. I find those numbers incomprehensible, but if they're true the idea that there is a criminality crisis in the NFL is certainly open to debate.
     
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    I think a lot of it's that NFL players make very good money (at least while they're in the league), so we have higher standards for them.
     
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    I'm wondering whether the numbers are different for the different sports.

    Football is a violent game--not to condone but I would imagine your average football player is more prone to violence than in the other 3 major sports.

    Expecting them to turn off the volume once the music starts might be expecting too much. Again not condoning or excusing just a possible explanation.
     
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    Apparently there is now video data.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Very timely post.
     
  15. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Pretty funny how a day after I made the Kraft post he's arrested. Why can't I win Poweball.
     
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    Ok, I expect similar posts about Brady and Belicheat.
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Next up on the Arrest-O-Meter . . . ? Personally I wish it had been Constipated Bill instead of Kraft but I'll take it. I guess Constipated Bill learned his lesson in stupidity after sending Sharon Shenocca stacks of cash in Cheats envelopes through the mail. Oh, well, can't win 'em all.
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    By the by I don't know what Poweball is - unless I'm Elmer Fudd or something. I do, however, know what Powerball is. I can't win that, either.
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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