The fact that this guy was even strongly considered for the HC position is a testament of Mac & Johnson's incompetence!!!
I am actually siding with NYJ management in terms of this. Sorry Rhule, first year on the job you ain't bring your unknown coaches to "help" this team. Sure, you want to give them exposure, but if he hired Monken like the rumors suggested, eventually he could've had more of his own guys in the building. I think the assistant coaches on O was the biggest problem. Dorsey is picking their HCs assistant coaches for CLE
Good stuff.... i can see both sides... sure he wants freedom to pick his staff, but the flipside is he was being considered for a position that in many ways his resume says he isnt qualified for. Sometimes you have to concede a bit, and he chose not to. Nothing wrong with that. Gase probably has more freedom to pick his own staff due to his experience and nfl connections. Dont know anything about Loggains, but that picture floatin around screams embarassment on the sidelines
From everything I've heard, this guy will be a HC in the league soon and people think he will be a very good one. Maybe not yet, but soon.
Fair enough and maybe so, but there are legitamate concerns about his lack of nfl experience and nfl connections. If he wanted to bring his baylor staff with him and the jets wanted some more nfl flavor on the staff to help offset the cons associated with Rhule, like a previous poster said, im ok with that. Likewise, i have no problem with Rhule stciking to his convictions as well
If CJ and Mac were going to put him on a leash before even offering the guy a job, why bother and waste everyone's time? That means they don't think he is qualified and he doesn't have the contacts to succeed as an NFL head coach. I understand bringing the guy in for another position in the organization, but head honcho? No way. Stupid.
If you don’t trust a coaches judgement for his own coordinators what would you trust about him to actually coach the team? Not letting a coach pick his own coordinators is like not letting a GM pick his coach. And we know the board’s overwhelming opinion on that dynamic.
I could see if the Johnsons and Macc had a clear vision for the kind of team image they want and the newly hired HC was going to pick staff that did't support that identity, but the Jets don't have an identity - other than SOJ. Further, they've settled on a HC and believe he's knowledgeable, so why wouldn't you trust him to pick guys he thinks he works well with? This is simply more meddling by guys who don't know what they're doing. SOJ.
Good. These nepotism failure fests need to end. This was a reason why we didn’t get McCarthy and why he didn’t take the Cleveland job. The FO and Mac have in mind who they want as coordinators. Get the best possible individuals for the position, those with experience, and those that have had success. It was said that one of the reasons why we got Gase is due to the fact he agreed to the above structure. Oh, Matt Rhule, you are about to become a first time HC in the NFL and you want to bring your OC and DC from Baylor or Temple? No, fuck yourself dude. That sounds like the fast track to failure. Make these individuals get along. If you cannot be hired as a coach and get along with other professionals and have to hire your own friends, sorry, get bent. You get paid enough, you can suck it up and grow with other individuals as a cohesive unit. That’s your god damn job. Sure, some people may be hard to work with. But, that is any job. Communicate and get on the same page. Cut the robot nepotism retread failure bullshit. For this reason, we won’t be getting the little dyke that was Miami’s OC.
Hope you are correct. Loggains track record when without Gase is horrendous. He’s being granted in interview for HC by the Phins. Let’s hope that it works out for him.
I can’t remember the source, but I think a contingency of Gase being hired was he was willing to accept the FO putting together his staff instead of him hand picking. That was something McCarthy was against, as was Rhule, as I’m sure Arians would have been too had he even been an option.
Yes, it’s an interesting strategy by the Jets and I think I like it. Find the best available for each job. They’ve clearly prioritized Darnolds development which is great. I only question Gace’s ability to play nice with an outside OC/DC, and the ramifications for the team if he can’t.
He didn't have anybody w. any experience to run the offense or more importantly develop Darnold. He's gotta realize how important that is.It's not like they were forcing a whole staff on him; One position that greatly affects where the franchise currently is at. I'm sorry...I take the jets side on this. If you're gonna have tunnel vision about the very organization you are going into, can't recognize you don't have anybody w. the resume necessary to develop Darnold & as such aren't willing to make a concession...yeah..good luck finishing 4th in the big 12 every season buddy.
From what I read, Chris and Mac wanted to make sure Darnolds development was taken care of rather than take a chance on an unknown offensive coordinator who may or may not be able to develop him. Can’t say that’s a bad thing.
He better hope because he’ll probably never be a HC in the NFL again if it goes south. I just don’t get why people never learn from their past mistakes. Why would you take all the personnel with you that led to your firing? It would be like Bowles getting a HC gig and taking Rodgers and Bates with him as DC and OC. That will end in failure too. Be smarter.
It's not about not letting them pick staff, it's about bringing in complete unknowns to the NFL level. Every person they interviewed explained the staff they would bring in, and Rhule's staff was not up to snuff with the others. Why should they blindly trust a college coach's judgement, without analyzing his plan and staff choices? Of course that factors in, and IMO a good reason to not hire him. If Gase, postulated the same staff Rhule wanted, he would have been overruled as well.