Cimini: McCagnan doesnt view Mayfield as top 3 pick

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  1. LF911SC

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    How many times have you seen Mayfield throw the ball into tight windows? Rarely, its not how that offense is designed to work. He throws lots of short, safe quick read passes. Doesnt have to look off of his receivers. He throws lots of wheel routes, he better be accurate, comp % wise. I'll take Darnold and Rosen over him for all of these reasons, Drew Brees? The last arm I want outdoors in the NE is Drew Brees. Out of the 4 QB hes 4th arm wise.
     
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    Watch tape on mayfield, hes very accurate. Rosen is the only qb in this draft who is even close to him.

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    Close to him? Rosen and Darnold are better than Mayfield in every way imaginable as a QB
     
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    Darnold isnt anything close to accurate on throws. Hes erratic.

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    Darnold throws downfield, throws NFL passes. Looks off defenders and throws WRs open. Apples and oranges. Not erratic, had a drop off early in the season and then got a lot better as the young players gained experience.

    Mayfield scares me in a NFL offense, Darnold doesnt.
     
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    Look its ok you like the guy, but dont ignore his faults while glistening about what you like. Hes not an accurate passer, thats the bottom line.

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    I'm sure you'll find something to complain about next year's quarterbacks too.
     
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    Youre pretty much on your own thinking Mayfield is comparable to Darnold.
     
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    there is a weird love affair with mayfield on these forums. if you don't agree be prepared for some insults to be thrown your way. I've already been down this road with some people here and all i did was get insulted.
     
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    Actually im not. There are scouts who believe the same. Ive already stated cosell feels very strongly about mayfield.

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    napoleon syndrome
     
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    Darnold's upside is the highest in this draft. Is he rough around the edges? Absolutely, but the kid is the ultimate gamer in the clutch. He could be like Big Ben but w/out the rape issues.
     
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    OK, a handful of fans who think the Heisman means success in the NFL or fell in love with him when he grabbed his crotch and screamed "fuck you" because, you know, he has moxie. Or love that he said hes the most accurate QB available.

    And Cosell

    BTW, Darnolds not inaccurate, it was listed that his accuracy needs to improve on the run out of the pocket.
     
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    Hes in accurate in the pocket too. Because his mechanics arent perfected. Like I said, im not trying to tell you to hate the guy, but dont gloss over his weaknesses either. Im not going back and forth with you all night either. Youre not changing my feelings on him. Darnold needs a lot more work of hes gonna be successful in the NFL. Thats not to say he can't, but he is certainly no day one starter or honestly even a year one.

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    Hes got the better body, arm and smarts compared to Mayfield, not even close. He ran a pro offense, not some gimmick offense that gave Landry Jones bloated numbers. He is the best of the group when it comes to look off defenders and throwing WRs open. Hes the lower risk by far compared to Mayfield. Its not close, i could care less if one out of the many call Mayfield their top QB.
     
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    Not trying to change anyones mind, just putting down what Ive seen and what most are saying. Youre entitled to your opinion, we all are.
     
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    I honestly dont think any of these qbs are day one starters. They all need time, thats why im glad Mac did what he did.

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    Believing that Mayfield can be a good NFL QB means there's a weird love affair? I'm one of the Mayfield believers and I haven't insulted you or others who don't believe he can be successful at the next level.
     
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    Same, have not seen anyone insult people for not believing in Mayfield. For those critiquing his arm strength and his accuracy, you need to find better arguments. He might have the best overall arm talent in this draft. Arm talent to me does not solely mean the ability to throw far or hard.
     
  20. Thats why it's so frustrating to see anti QB folk bitching about none of the QB's being ready to start day 1 along w. the surrounding cast not being up to par. Well yeah...that's why we're gonna take our guy, let him develop for a year behind the scenes & start improving the offensive talent next offseason when said QB is handed the keys. I have yet to see even a fraction of this acknowledged by that crowd.
     
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