Is Leonard Williams a bust ?

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  1. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Harrison was undrafted.....not taken 6th overall.If Harrison was a better run stopper and he was undrafted then why did we let him go and waste a top pick on Williams.Harrison should still be here so should Sheldon.Wilkerson should have been the one to go
     
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  2. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    I would say based on where Williams was drafted his return has been solid so far. Not a world beater and not a bust. Somewhere in the middle. Obviously for a premium pick like #6 you'd like to see a greater return. I think he needs to step it up a bit next year. One thing is for sure, the Jets under Mac have not nailed the draft at all. That needs to change this year.
     
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  3. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Sheldon has been such a BEAST over in Seattle. If anything, the Jets should've went after Dontrai Poe, the NT. A NT that can rush the passer, he could've been a lesser version of Kris Jenkins. I wanted Poe for the longest time on the Jets. Snacks still can't rush the passer over in NYG. I ain't paying him crazy money. I want a NT that can destroy the pocket on passing downs and we still haven't found that player. Jenkins was the last guy.
     
  4. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Of more concern is why are we doubting talented players that are performing at high levels even if they aren't performing up to our unrealistic expectations? Harrison and Richardson were tossed aside. Looks like Wilkerson will be next. Williams too? You can't build a successful franchise if you allow good players to walk out the door, especially when you don't have anyone to replace them. Unfortunately, this franchise has a bad history of prematurely disposing of good players. It really needs to stop.
     
  5. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    Jets need a beast NT. Unfortunately there really isn't one on the roster. McLendon performed admirably as the NT, and did solid given the fact he really isn't a "NT". Next to him, Leo at times was solid. But again where there isn't guys off the edge who can loop around the tackles, opposing teams basically just needed to keep the big boys like Leo and McLendon and etc in front of them. It's about space and the Jets had zero guys who can consistently get pressure on the outside.

    Leo was the Jets most consistent DLinemen. Now they need guys who can get pressure , then you will see Leo really shine.
     
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  6. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    no bust but offenses can focus on him without probowl talent around him.
     
  7. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    "Yes, Williams didn't have many sacks, but he wound up with 25 quarterback hits, seventh-most in the league. Wilkerson, meanwhile, had just six. Brutal. "

    People need to judge more with their eye and less with the stat sheet. For a team that had what amounted to 0 other threats to get to the QB Williams had a decent year. Not a great one but not as terrible as some would like to think. This was a team who was led in sacks by an inside linebacker and QB hits by an interior lineman. We severely lack pass rushing talent in our front 7. He's a part to build around on the line if we can actually get other talented players who want to show up and play unlike Mo.
     
  8. Attackett

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    Harrison I can agree with as in hindsight it looks to be a terrible mistake letting him walk for nothing. Richardson and Wilkerson I disagree. Every GM in the league would’ve made that Richardson trade and was probably Macs best move as Jets GM. Wilkerson has to go, can’t have a player making that kinda cash breaking team rules and giving little to no effort.
     
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  9. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    This thread is sad.
     
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  10. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    Well said.

    In a "down" year for Williams, he was still a very productive, consistent player.
     
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  11. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    No.

    He was injured for the first quarter of the season and when Wilkerson is playing like a backup DL on South West Missouri State and the rest of your DL is full of average to below average players, it's only natural that Williams saw double and triple teams. Now I will say, if he wants to be an impact player and be lauded upon like the next coming like some Jets fans were quick to do with him, he has to be able to beat those double and triple teams sometimes, but I'll give him some more time, because he as enormous potential and before this year, I don't think he's seen double and triple teams since playing the Pac10 at USC.
     
  12. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Well what does that say about the franchise if we draft good players and they want to leave or forced to leave within a few years?
     
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  13. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Says the same thing it says about every other franchise that goes through getting rid of good players or having good players leave, which is every franchise in the NFL btw. What it says is that there is a salary cap in the NFL and every offseason there are good players leaving or being forced to leave throughout the NFL.
     
  14. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Do Jets fans even understand football? Apparently not. There is only so much Leonard Williams can do on this defense. He has played well overall, I would say. If you want to talk about a bust, look at Wilkerson after he signed his deal. Now that is an embarrassment. Williams has been a bright spot on an otherwise dark 3 year period for the Jets.
     
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  15. Walt White

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    He was let down by Mo too. Mo's injury and then his selfish behavior. Everybody else suffered around them also. When Mo played hard after the injury for a while the D was much better. But then he decided he didn't care about anybody after they lost a couple more games

    Mo basically fucked them. For whatever reason. I'd like to know. It's a team game and now they have get some additional players around to make up for that too. Dude's got a problem as far as I'm concerned.


    Btw, Williams was a consensus top 5 pick so second guessing that move is a reach.
     
  16. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Quite possibly the last guy on the roster I'm concerned with
     
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    grkmanga31 Well-Known Member

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    He's not a bust, but I do think he has not lived up to the hype thus far.

    IMO, I think his play has been negatively affected by the deteriorating talent on the d-line. First we lost sheldon richardson and Wilkerson has essentially been garbage for 2 seasons now.

    He's the only one on the d-line worth anything really and since we have no edge pressure, L. Williams is often times double teamed.

    I think he isn't a game changer so far, but I think he can become one if he gets help on the d-line.

    I think the book is still open on him.
     
  18. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Wtf is wrong with the fans of this team? Geez man if i ever said anything to offend you i apologize. Youve clearly have always been one of the more rational people on this board.

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  19. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Of course Williams is a bust.

    With our A+ defensive backfield he should have gotten double digit coverage sacks at the very least!

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  20. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    the fuck you talking about? I wasn't cracking on you with that post. At least not intentionally. We good.
     

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