Why all the hate for Marshon Lattimore?

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Jerry Rice played in a totally different era where everyone was slower, and he wasn't 4.7 slow.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Actually he was. He ran a 4.71.

    40 time is overrated. Cornerback is just not a top 10 pick in my opinion. They're too easily neutralized and the bust rate is extremely high on these players. If you were to look into the success rate at certain positions I'd bet corner is one of the largest bust rates.

    It's also a low impact position. They usually can help to slow a passing attack but the impact plays are few and far between. You can figure out how to scheme around a shitty or average secondary a lot more than you can around a shitty or average pass rush.

    If we're going defense I want a pass rusher or a playmaking safety. We've tried both the corner and 3technique route. It hasn't worked in recent years. Let's try a different way to build our defense.
     
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    Excellent point! The first "D" pick needs to be an immediate impact on pass rush. The only possible exception MIGHT be for a great S who can cover up all the mistakes the rest of the secondary makes, but I would still prefer the pass rusher who also helps the secondary by taking away time for the QB to pick them apart.
     
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  4. RubenDias

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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    I just don't see any logical path where you can draft Lattimore if Hooker is still available.
     
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    Pags2112 Well-Known Member

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    I don't have hate for Lattimore, but would definitely not take him at 6.

    What's really strange and unsettling, is that in every foto I see of him, there's an eerie blurry image in the background. A sort of distorted humanoid form that appears to not have its limbs fully formed, nor attached. In the upper center of the blur, I see tones of green with hints of white. The white tones swirl, almost purposely, into a what appear to be numerals. Though difficult to make out, small fragments of its lower core seem to be in free fall. The fragments are collecting onto an open, stone box like grave. In each foto, Ghostly transparent arms always reach for Marshon Latrimore from the grave. Focusing .. I can also make out lettering on the stone .. it reads
    Dee Milliner

    I have a gut feeling this guy is gonna be injury prone ...
     
  7. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    Lattimore is the one who has the measurables more then the actually time at the position. He's good and has the most potential to be a shut down corner. Hooker is known as the best DB in that secondary and many OSU fans said Conley was the actual better cover corner last season.
     
  8. hobgoblin

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    I'm terrified of taking a CB that high, especially when this is being touted as one of the better CB classes in a while. I'm hoping they take one of the safetys, Fournette, or Howard if they don't trade back.
     
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  9. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Because you don't waste a #6 pick on a CB who has played only one season due to injuries. And who has he covered in that one year?

    Also, because there's an elite TE who can both catch and block and will add a whole new dimension to our offense.
     
  10. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    thats the first reason.
     
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    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    It was in no particular order.

    If Mac takes anyone besides Howard Round 1, he should get fired before Round 2.
     
  12. RubenDias

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    lol thats a bit extreme there are a lot of good players in round 1 beside Howard.
     
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    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure there are plenty of good picks to be had after the 6th pick.
     
  14. JethroTull

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    Bump! Looks like I was right again
     
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    Lattimore is very good, but would've still taken Adams or Hooker over him.
     
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    TGG is a joke..

    Jets shutout at Denver with our "best" QB and now has Offense with no QB but lots of field goals going forward

    oh yeah ..heres an idea M Latimore to solve our problems...pathetic vision

    OMG this place is a train wreck
     
  17. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Actually it was mostly everyone else that was right. Those that stated he was good but very injury prone. 1st season not even over and he has missed, what, 4 games and parts of another?

    Nothing like hedging your bets as usual

     
  18. TouchyFeely

    TouchyFeely Well-Known Member

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    But when healthy he's a top CB in the league. You take that at 6. You trust in your strength and conditioning program to keep him on the field.
     
  19. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    You don't think the Saints have a good strength and conditioning program? "When healthy" really means nothing if he misses 30% of the games.
     
  20. JetFanInPA

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    Oh man this is great. Important reminder about our evaluations of players... Only thing is it's only been almost one season. Let's see how he and others picked around him do longer term.
     

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